From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 30 10:13:24 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E961D16A4CE for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from pimout4-ext.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9790443FDD for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:13:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from maul.immure.com (adsl-66-136-206-1.dsl.austtx.swbell.net [66.136.206.1])h9UIDKUC163794; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:13:20 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by maul.immure.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) id h9UIDKYK086419; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:13:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from luke.immure.com (luke.immure.com [10.1.132.3]) by maul.immure.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h9UIDIhB086394; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:13:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@immure.com) Received: from luke.immure.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by luke.immure.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9UIDIIR000457; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:13:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@luke.immure.com) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id h9UIDIaI000456; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:13:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:13:18 -0600 From: Bob Willcox To: Dan Strick Message-ID: <20031030181318.GA97591@luke.immure.com> References: <3FA0B460.7090008@freebsd.org> <200310301808.h9UI8qaZ000347@ice.nodomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200310301808.h9UI8qaZ000347@ice.nodomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-scanner: scanned by Inflex 1.0.12.3 on maul.immure.com cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: dan@ice.nodomain Subject: Re: 4.9 is now available X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bob Willcox List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:13:25 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 10:08:52AM -0800, Dan Strick wrote: > Scott Long wrote: > > > > 5.x uses an entirely different mechanism to make the CD bootable. The > > mechanism used in 4.x is similar to what Microsoft used for the Windows > > 95/98 CD's (Emulated El-Torito), while 5.x uses a similar mechanism as > > Windows 2000/XP (Non-Emulated El-Torito). Since Microsoft only requires > > support for the second method in order to award the MS logo, I suspect > > that support for the first method is starting to die out in mainstream > > BIOSes. > > Some possibly relevant/confirming data points: > 1) My Win98 CD fails to boot on my new machine. > 2) My Win98SE CD boots correctly. > 3) My WinXP CD boots correctly. > > This could prove very inconvenient for a lot of people who are > now buying new machines and hope to run FreeBSD 4.9 because it > has better support for modern motherboard devices. Seems that they should be able to create the floppy disks and boot from them still. Not ideal, but should work. Bob -- Bob Willcox If your happiness depends on what somebody else does, bob@immure.com I guess you do have a problem. Austin, TX -- Richard Bach, "Illusions"