From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 2 18:58:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBF5106566B for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 18:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C69E8FC16 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 18:58:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19091 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2012 18:58:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy8.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Aug 2012 18:58:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=+ApPFCfCJpJjEQCDGtR6KnpwFfIopEVoLoGOxGCMbHw=; b=fDR3Rd+TAdRUACHwceX0X6SY3sOyA0KIKwo83TfKibXHNoOULw550JpJIa7YXA4iOBnSoJGkRTnNkDjAkTiIO4QDbz3MIQBI9y8mUlixXi93iLqpDp4nyDWdnE+9WYuW; Received: from [24.8.180.234] (port=61984 helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sx0at-0003l4-Fd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:57:59 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:57:59 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120802185759.GB12255@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:58:00 -0000 On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 01:39:21PM +0000, Traiano Welcome wrote: > > > >even if not  it's just matter to add proper licence to right ports in > >port tree and require user to accept it. > > Probably won't even have to do that. People can download, compile and > run whatever they want on a base operating system, but as long as the > base operating system (FreeBSD in our case) remains "legally > un-encumbered" with patented code, nobody really cares. If individual > users decide they want to compile and run copyrighted software on > FreeBSD (or linux) it will be a matter between M$ and the particular > user in question, not the community providing the base OS and user > space tools. > > The SCO-IBM debacle some years ago triggered a huge review of open > source copyrights in the linux (and *bsd) community. SCO failed to get > anything back then, and it's hard to imagine how M$ will get anything > now that there's broader awareness in "the community" around software > patent infringement. Unfortunately, patent law and copyright law are very different environments. The truth is that probably every nontrivial piece of software created infringes several patents, and the only question that remains is whether those patents would hold up in court under close scrutiny. The greater the disparity in legal expertise and funding behind the two parties, the greater the likelihood that the case will be found in favor of the party with the greater resources. This is the reason software patents comprise such a blight on the world of software development. Even a frivolous patent that would not hold up through completion of litigation may serve its purpose by bankrupting a defendant before the case is concluded. It is possible that Microsoft is going the way of SCO -- into its grave, having hung all its hopes on litigation. Along the way, though, it will probably do a lot of damage to a lot of people, projects, and businesses, and I just hope it doesn't get as far as the FreeBSD project or any FreeBSD users before things come crashing down. (disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. Et cetera.) -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]