From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Feb 18 16:39:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA14381 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA14375 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:39:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA12107; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:35:54 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199702190035.RAA12107@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: pcvt/132 columns To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:35:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hm@kts.org, ccsanady@nyx.pr.mcs.net, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199702182249.JAA07175@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Feb 19, 97 09:19:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > This is, of course, not really a useful solution. Please people, > > > don't assume that the last decade has been devoid of programmers that > > > understand the PC's video subsystem - none of the ideas that have been > > > raised recently are original, and the fact that they haven't been > > > implemented should tell you something very important. > > > > That the FreeBSD hackers have problems implementing something the > > Linux guys already have? 8-) 8-) 8-). > > Huh? They call the BIOS out of their bootstrap loader to set the video > mode. Yay; I prefer the space used in ours to do the serial console > stuff properly. Look at the "Linux GGI" code (run a search on AltaVista for it, or look for "Generic Graphic Interface" in the Linux groups on DejaNews). It is *exactly* the "super console" design that never got done in the BSD camps after it was first discussed in fall of 1993. You won't find it on the "Linux roadmap" because Linus won't integrate it, even though it works. > The SVGATextmode stuff had been done for FreeBSD, and if I thought it > was worth the effort, I'd try to help Soren get it working. As it is, > a $60 PCI video card gives more than enough X grunt for snazzy text modes > to be a complete waste of time. That code is totally unrelated to the GGI code; it's not what I'm referring to. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.