From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 16 13:11:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12456 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:11:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12451 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:11:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA08143; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:09:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA24884; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:09:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:09:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199812162109.OAA24884@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Steve Kargl , Nate Williams , bs_13943_34262@adimus.de, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall) In-Reply-To: References: <199812162105.NAA75401@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > All claimed advantages have absolutely nothing to do with the question > > > > > of placing your fortran compiler in the base system instead of a port. > > > > > > > > There is already a Fortran compiler in the base system. > > > > > > I'd argue (heck, I am arguing. :) that it should be removed. > > > > > > > Surprisingly, I would actually support this. > > > > You realize that doing so makes FreeBSD look bad to new compsci students > who all have to take that dreaded FORTRAN class sometime during their > education? I don't know of *ANY* University that teaches Fortran to Comp. Sci students. Fortran is a dead language, and is only used by engineers that have already existing Fortran code. And, even if many universities still commonly taught Fortran, we don't support Pascal, Java, Ada, or many other 'common' teaching languages out of the box, so this is a poor excuse to keep Fortran. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message