From owner-cvs-all Tue Nov 7 10:12:48 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934B237B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp241.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA7IC6H56520; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:12:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001107080831.A45068@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:12:30 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: cvs commit: src Makefile Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ cc's trimmed, Jordan really doesn't need this whole thread in his inbox *twice* ] On 07-Nov-00 Michael Lucas wrote: > On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 07:53:25PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: >> > Hmmm. Have I left anything out? :-) >> Err... "time make buildworld"? > > Uh, I just *know* I'm going to regret opening my mouth... > > Isn't "make world" largely useless now? If the correct build process > is make buildworld - make buildkernel - make installkernel - make > installworld, who actually safely uses "make world" now? Nah. The buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld is only really needed for going between branches, or for big changes like upgrading binutils or other parts of the toolchain. `make release' uses `make world' internally, for example, and I still use buildworld, installworld, build & install new kernels, update /etc as my upgrade path on my various boxes. If you watch the changes closely enough, you can figure out when you actually need to use the more anal method and when you can get by with the others. :) Since making this distinction can be non-trivial for newbies and people who aren't intimately familiar with the system, recommending the safer method makes their lives easier. > ==ml -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message