From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 10:31:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5A2106566C for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 10:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller23@insightbb.com) Received: from mail.insightbb.com (smtp2.insight.synacor.com [208.47.185.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D539C8FC08 for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 10:31:39 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=QxL/C1rywaJITqvrsg8FuNesn/yGun5w1h3fA8NMSFE= c=1 sm=0 a=7-V2bO-0qoEA:10 a=jLN7EqiLvroA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=0vGXzcQ-b61cW-vO8vkA:9 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=Q/oqmR4JO1zR3vNQamCQeQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com header.from=mueller23@insightbb.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp02.insight.synacor.com smtp.mail=mueller23@insightbb.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (smtp02.insight.synacor.com: transitional domain insightbb.com does not designate 74.134.26.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.134.26.53] ([74.134.26.53:34001] helo=localhost) by mail.insightbb.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 9C/BC-13930-A07F5CF4; Wed, 30 May 2012 06:31:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 06:31:38 -0400 Message-ID: <9C.BC.13930.A07F5CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:31:40 -0000 > freebsd-questions-owner@... is correct, except that to my knowledge > there isn't really a moderator for freebsd-questions (it's an open list > that anyone can post to without having to be a member) and that address > ultimately gets dealt with by postmaster@freebsd.org. > The message you got about "held for moderation" is standard boiler-plate > from mailman, and probably not appropriate for your specific circumstances. > On the whole though, you shouldn't need to contact anyone about the > warning you received. It generally occurs when your mail system > rejects messages from the freebsd-questions@... list as spam. As there > is a certain amount of spam that does appear on the list, this is an > absolutely legitimate practice: trouble is, it's hard for the FreeBSD > mail system to distinguish deliberate non-acceptance of spam from > accidental non-acceptance of traffic due to a broken mailer. > Mailman has an adaptive system that scores you based on how many rejects > you generate in a certain time period. If you log into mailman at eg. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions > you can see your current score. Mine is currently 2.0 (out of 5.0) and > has been about that for quite some time. So long as your score is not > too large, I wouldn't worry about the message you received. Even if > your score does go over the threshold, you can just use that same > interface to re-enable delivery. > Cheers, > Matthew > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. I contacted my Internet service provider, Insight Cable, about the problem, and they need a copy of any message that bounces, so they can see what went awry. So I can't just ignore the problem. Maybe I should resend the message to postmaster@freebsd.org instead of freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org? This problem relates to FreeBSD emailing lists in general, not just one list such as questions@ . Tom