From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Oct 18 17:54:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DF037B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD9096AB15; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:24:26 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:24:26 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Nate Williams Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , FreeBSD-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: /usr/src/sys/scripts? Message-ID: <20011019102425.G60412@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20011018101828.A88312@wantadilla.lemis.com> <15311.9266.464139.798092@nomad.yogotech.com> <20011019101722.C60412@wantadilla.lemis.com> <15311.30927.305794.574364@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15311.30927.305794.574364@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 06:50:23PM -0600 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 18 October 2001 at 18:50:23 -0600, Nate Williams wrote: >>>>> BSD/OS has a directory /usr/src/sys/scripts which contains macros for >>>>> kernel debugging. I have a number of macros here that I've >>>>> accumulated over time, and I'd like to commit them. I'd also like to >>>>> modify config(8) to install a .gdbinit in the kernel build directory >>>>> if debugging has been specified; the .gdbinit would load macros from >>>>> ../../scripts in order to help with kernel debugging. >>>> >>>> Wouldn't /var/crash be the logical place for .gdbinit? >>> >>> Yes, and no. Yes because that's where it may be useful, and no because >>> it's a place for crashdumps, not for analyzing crashdumps. >> >> I've been thinking about this, and I think I agree with DES. We have >> a basic problem that there are two different ways to use gdb, for >> crash dumps and for remote serial debugging. The .gdbinit you use is >> different in each case. I think it would make sense to install a >> serial debug .gdbinit in the kernel build directory, and a dump >> analysis .gdbinit in /var/crash (if present). >> >>> Most folks will probably not analyze the crashdumps, or they will copy >>> them off somewhere else so they can free up /var/crash for the next >>> crashdump, so I'd say stick .gdbinit somewhere else. >> >> If you can move the dump, you can move the .gdbinit. At least >> /var/crash is a standard place to look for it. > > Only if we make it a standard place. A better place would be > /sys/scripts/gdbinit.crash. Why? That's not obvious to somebody analyzing the dump in /var/crash. One more thing to look for, one more pathname to remember. >> I think it makes sense, though I'm not clear about when to move it >> there. Maybe savecore can do it if it's not already there. > > It has nothing to do with crashdumps themselves, but it has everything > to do with debugging crashdumps. Just because there is a casual > relationship doesn't mean it's the best place for the file. That statement applies to the saved kernel file as well. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message