From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 16 02:34:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D22116A4B3; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.macomnet.ru (relay.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EB443FBF; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:34:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from news1.macomnet.ru (f9s24ouu@news1.macomnet.ru [195.128.64.14]) by relay.macomnet.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8G9Xxg15649342; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:33:59 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:33:59 +0400 (MSD) From: Maxim Konovalov To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <3F66A446.7090408@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20030916131622.N54869@news1.macomnet.ru> References: <3F66A446.7090408@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Release Engineering Status Report X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 09:34:02 -0000 On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, 23:48-0600, Scott Long wrote: > All, > > I'd like to give a status report for 4.x and 5.x for the developers and > users who didn't attend the DevSummit this past weekend. > > 4.9: > The 4.9 release is likely going to be pushed back for a few weeks while > the recent instability reports are tracked down. The target goal is two > weeks, but hopefully things can be resolved before then. The problems > appear to stem from the recent PAE import. The consensus reached at the > DevSummit is that PAE is a critical feature for 4.x and that removing it > isn't desirable unless the problems persist. We encourage anyone to > help with this. PAE MFC brought an incredible instability to stable branch. It affects 100% of our user community especially when we issued several SAs since PAE commit. They often can't switch to RELENG_4_x security branches because even RELENG_4_8 misses several critical non-security fixes. I believe stability was a critical feature of stable branch. Not PAE or anything alse. That is why I think we have to back out all that PAE code from stable. [5.x stuff] -- Maxim Konovalov, maxim@macomnet.ru, maxim@FreeBSD.org