From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 21 23: 7:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5DA37B401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 14Kb49-0003es-00; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:07:01 +0000 To: David Kelly , Cliff Sarginson , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Cliff Sarginson Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs linux Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:07:01 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@btvs.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 192.250.24.58 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Cliff Sarginson writes: > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 08:54:58PM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > > > The majority of Linux users are also Windows users and wear > > > Microsoft-colored glasses no matter how much they badmouth Microsoft. > > > They continue to build their new land with a Microsoft tint. This may > > I don't understand what is meant by this... ? > > Both FreeBSD and Linux are amazing achievements..in my view. > > > > > not be a bad thing, only time will tell. > > What I mean by "Microsoft tint" is prefaced by "Microsoft-colored > glasses". Users who know only of Windows bitch when an OS doesn't do > everything the way they are used to. When configuring a foreign system, > or writing code for it, they design the user interface after the > Microsoft model. And use Microsoft terminology to document. And then > complain about how much they hate Microsoft. I am sorry that has not been my experience from the mailing lists for Linux I have been on. Sure some people complain, but they would complain anyway. They feel they have been sold a pup ! I really do not understand what you mean by "user interface" in this context. If you are referring to X11 Desktops, then that has nothing to do with Linux per-se. If you are referring to the installation/setup programs then since most of them (with the honourable exceptions of Suse and Debian) don't work .. and are supposed to .. I suppose people will complain. Is this a Microsoft "tint", I don't think so, except that since Microsoft's installation procedures have never worked properly since the days of 3.1 I suppose they do have something in common. > > A small thing but last time I sat at a Linux keyboard "dir" did the DOS > thing, by default. i think you will find "dir" often aliased to "ls -l". This seems to me be perfectly fine ! That one of the major strengths of the UNIX shell, it can be customised to your likes. Despite years of UNIX work I still miss out the space between ls and -l in "ls -l" so I have an alias for "ls-l" :) Cliff p.s. I am not sure what this has to do with the original question, which I think was asking for some objective answers :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message