From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 31 16:31:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5867616A4DE; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:31:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CBE243D64; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:31:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE77D291AFE; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05340-07; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E62291AF8; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id B07855D69C; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF086344AB; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:31:35 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: Svein Halvor Halvorsen In-Reply-To: <44CDD1C6.6080401@lvor.halvorsen.cc> Message-ID: <20060731132625.X27679@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <87slklj9hu.fsf@photon.homelinux.org> <20060729021007.F27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CD41EC.6030605@freebsd.org> <20060730233839.I27679@ganymede.hub.org> <44CDAA98.3030702@freebsd.org> <44CDD1C6.6080401@lvor.halvorsen.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xiao-Yong Jin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Colin Percival Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:31:45 -0000 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > Colin Percival wrote: >> There are still a lot of people (particularly on pre-6.0 systems) who >> are using CVSup rather than portsnap for updating their ports trees. > > Also, I would guess that some people who run multiple FreeBSD systems, > use some sort of local propagation of either the entire ports tree, or > locally compiled packages. > > I work as a sysadmin at the students computer lab at the mathematics > department at the Norwegian university of science and technology, and we > take this approach. Not that the maths department is a large one, but we > have fifty-some workstations and a couple of servers running FreeBSD. > Only one or two of which would show up in the portsnap stats. Ya, that is the part that throws the #s out completely ... its those 'ghost machines' that would be nice to see counted somehow ... How about something as innoculous as: fetch http://statsserver.domain/aliveping.php?version=`uname -mr`&hostname=`hostname` run as part of periodic daily ... ? uname -mr would have to be properly formatted for a URL, but that would give a distinct IP / hostname for indexing, and OS version, take neglible bandwidth to run, and, I believe, doesn't give out any *sensitive* information ... Then have a daily_statistics_enable="YES" in /etc/defaults/perodic.conf, so that ppl can opt out of it ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664