From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 12 15:25:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7031216A41F for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:25:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5520943D70 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:25:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.11] (junior.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0CFPFXe033615; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:25:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <43C674DD.6030506@samsco.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:25:17 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051230 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <20060111212605.79848.qmail@web34104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43C57A7A.3080802@elischer.org> <3e1162e60601111405x59e7e70dyf57c74b01e888e8a@mail.gmail.com> <20060111.234830.49434547.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20060111.234830.49434547.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: alanbryan1234@yahoo.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, julian@elischer.org, leimy2k@gmail.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Intel Macs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:25:25 -0000 M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <3e1162e60601111405x59e7e70dyf57c74b01e888e8a@mail.gmail.com> > David Leimbach writes: > : On 1/11/06, Julian Elischer wrote: > : > > : > alan bryan wrote: > : > > : > >I read that the new Intel (x86) Macs use EFI rather > : > >than the traditional PC Bios to boot up. I'm > : > >interested in using one of these to multiboot OS X and > : > >FreeBSD and am wondering if it is yet known to work or > : > >not. Do any changes need to be made to FreeBSD or > : > >should it work out of the box? Thanks for any insight > : > >and I know that it may be impossible to fully answer > : > >until people get their hands on the hardware but I > : > >just wanted to start thinking about the possibilities. > : > > > : > > > : > well if they can boot Darwin I'm sure they can be hacked to boot FreeBSD. > : > It would probabty require a different bootloader binary. > : > : > : > : I don't see what booting Darwin has to do with booting FreeBSD. > : > : However, since FreeBSD boots on IA64 using the FreeBSD bootloader for IA64, > : I *hope* it won't be much work to port whatever changes that requires to > : IA32. > > Assuming any DRM or copy protection that apple puts in place allows US > to put a boot loader there in the first place. > > Warner GRRRRRRRRRRRRR Please stop the absolutely baseless conjecture. Scott