From owner-freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 20:00:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports-bugs@smarthost.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A83D120 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 20:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37B2C2FD3 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 20:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s4RK01Rf003088 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 20:00:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/Submit) id s4RK01s6003087; Tue, 27 May 2014 20:00:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 20:00:01 GMT Message-Id: <201405272000.s4RK01s6003087@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Mark Felder Subject: Re: ports/187286: [bsd.default-versions.mk] [patch] Default PostgreSQL version needs to be updated to 9.3 Reply-To: Mark Felder X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Ports bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 20:00:01 -0000 The following reply was made to PR ports/187286; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mark Felder To: Francois Tigeot Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, Gavin Atkinson , Baptiste Daroussin , mat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/187286: [bsd.default-versions.mk] [patch] Default PostgreSQL version needs to be updated to 9.3 Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:57:42 -0500 On 2014-05-23 07:51, Francois Tigeot wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 08:18:05PM -0500, Mark Felder wrote: >>=20 >> On May 18, 2014, at 16:25, Francois Tigeot =20 >> wrote: >>=20 >> > There may be some performance differences between Postgres 9.3 and >> > Postgres 9.2 on FreeBSD but it's nothing compared to the gap between >> > FreeBSD and Linux. >>=20 >> This is true, but we may not want to widen the performance gap=20 >> experienced by the general userbase. >>=20 >> "With 9.2, up to 17 % more TPS could be achived (for 32 clients)."=20 >> -girgen@ >=20 > This may be true but has nothing to do with the matter at hand. >=20 > Postgres 9.0 and 9.1 are years old, they are useless. > 9.4 is currently in beta and the 9.5 development cycle has already=20 > started. >=20 > I'm currently at PGCon and one of the frequent complaints I have been=20 > hearing > about is operating system vendors continuing to ship obsolete versions. >=20 > By refusing to update the default version of PostgreSQL used in ports=20 > to > something relatively recent, you're effectively rendering FreeBSD less > attractive as a platform. CC'ing mat@ Francois has an excellent point. Maybe we should just do the exp-run on=20 9.3 and be done with it? Let the pg guys and our guys figure out the=20 performance impact (which might be false as tests were not done with=20 *remote* clients) and at least keep our platform attractive to postgres=20 users.