From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 12 15:48:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589A616A41F for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:48:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leimy2k@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5BA43D46 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:48:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from leimy2k@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so423382nzo for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:48:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=A0xAu8tJSItAe/QSy6e8ShB+WF5TpmySMQ2mUfbijMRCiar9tPBTbaBagH0A20L27WscPOoZtPAsc/b7mr/CaOv1i8NbgN6PlkSOsmK/FzrQIOnpXDDR39RdBMk7lj3FoPDNdjndbi58dxlllTPYV7nW9TzuCy3omDgabFNb9CY= Received: by 10.36.196.6 with SMTP id t6mr1854538nzf; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.46.13 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:48:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3e1162e60601120748p55e6d77cib782917714c75afb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:48:46 -0800 From: David Leimbach To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <43C674DD.6030506@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060111212605.79848.qmail@web34104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43C57A7A.3080802@elischer.org> <3e1162e60601111405x59e7e70dyf57c74b01e888e8a@mail.gmail.com> <20060111.234830.49434547.imp@bsdimp.com> <43C674DD.6030506@samsco.org> Cc: alanbryan1234@yahoo.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, julian@elischer.org, "M. Warner Losh" Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Intel Macs? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:48:47 -0000 On 1/12/06, Scott Long wrote: > M. Warner Losh wrote: > > In message: <3e1162e60601111405x59e7e70dyf57c74b01e888e8a@mail.gmail.co= m> > > David Leimbach writes: > > : On 1/11/06, Julian Elischer wrote: > > : > > > : > alan bryan wrote: > > : > > > : > >I read that the new Intel (x86) Macs use EFI rather > > : > >than the traditional PC Bios to boot up. I'm > > : > >interested in using one of these to multiboot OS X and > > : > >FreeBSD and am wondering if it is yet known to work or > > : > >not. Do any changes need to be made to FreeBSD or > > : > >should it work out of the box? Thanks for any insight > > : > >and I know that it may be impossible to fully answer > > : > >until people get their hands on the hardware but I > > : > >just wanted to start thinking about the possibilities. > > : > > > > : > > > > : > well if they can boot Darwin I'm sure they can be hacked to boot Fr= eeBSD. > > : > It would probabty require a different bootloader binary. > > : > > : > > : > > : I don't see what booting Darwin has to do with booting FreeBSD. > > : > > : However, since FreeBSD boots on IA64 using the FreeBSD bootloader for= IA64, > > : I *hope* it won't be much work to port whatever changes that requires= to > > : IA32. > > > > Assuming any DRM or copy protection that apple puts in place allows US > > to put a boot loader there in the first place. > > > > Warner > > GRRRRRRRRRRRRR > > Please stop the absolutely baseless conjecture. FYI, the entire first paragraph of the wikipedia article on EFI is pretty much a bunch of crap. At least they flagged it for not being neutral. There's so much misinformation on the www. Wikipedia's like a piece of flypaper for it sometimes. Dave