From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 31 01:03:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF5F16A420; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:03:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA27A43D46; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:03:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C24131E05; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:33:35 +1030 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E7AB85E4E; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:33:35 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:33:35 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Yar Tikhiy Message-ID: <20060131010335.GQ91655@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200601301233.k0UCXiKq085748@repoman.freebsd.org> <20060130123525.GD83922@FreeBSD.org> <20060130215816.GC91655@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20060130235717.J95776@fledge.watson.org> <20060131005711.GB16211@comp.chem.msu.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qCGCnlPZoKZX9mDP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060131005711.GB16211@comp.chem.msu.su> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Gleb Smirnoff , Robert Watson , Matteo Riondato Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults periodic.conf X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:03:37 -0000 --qCGCnlPZoKZX9mDP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 31 January 2006 at 3:57:11 +0300, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:58:19PM +0000, Robert Watson wrote: >> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> On Monday, 30 January 2006 at 15:35:25 +0300, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: >>>> M> Make df output in periodic mail human readable >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>> >>> *sigh* >>> >>> Not everybody is human. >> >> My daily script parsers certainly aren't. I quite like being able to pull >> in a mailbox of old daily output and plot disk space use over time. The >> problem with df -h is that as the numbers get bigger, the granularity >> becomes very, very coarse. I.e., you can only see changes at 1GB >> granularity for big disks, so you can't actually usefully track in any >> detail daily usage rates. > > I think that if the war of computers against humans ever begins, > it will break out from an event like this commit. And then some > geek folks will certainly come down on the side of computers. The > granularity of "df -h" is too coarse even to, ahem, some readers > of the list, keep alone the scripts. Quite naturally, they dread > being treated as inadequately human some day soon. > > To help keep peace, let's support the campaign against denying > computers their right to get complete and uncensored information > in plain text or, under very special conditions, XML :-) It's actually heartening to see so many people agreeing with me on this one; I wasn't expecting it. We should recognize that neither way is a solution. The solution would be to make this kind of thing easily configurable. That would mean something like a knob DFFLAGS in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. I'd argue (of course) for it to be -k by default (though I'd personally change it to -m). Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --qCGCnlPZoKZX9mDP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD3rdnIubykFB6QiMRAgL3AKCWawq80rPbQtsBVlwre1dKYyfEsgCgjOwL lq5zmw02/mxH8HRDX8kyS/s= =PNE2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qCGCnlPZoKZX9mDP--