From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 30 02:11:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BE116A425; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cracauer@schlepper.zs64.net) Received: from schlepper.zs64.net (schlepper.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8640A43D8D; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:11:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cracauer@schlepper.zs64.net) Received: from schlepper.zs64.net (schlepper [212.12.50.230]) by schlepper.zs64.net (8.13.3/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jAU2B4iW079969; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:11:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cracauer@schlepper.zs64.net) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by schlepper.zs64.net (8.13.3/8.12.9/Submit) id jAU2Axx1079965; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:10:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cracauer) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:10:59 -0500 From: Martin Cracauer To: hartzell@alerce.com Message-ID: <20051129211059.A79771@cons.org> References: <61FBEC57-424E-450F-A775-10E1F5E8DF92@cian.ws> <20051127215510.A17131@cons.org> <1133190443.41553.18.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <438B1F90.3090708@FreeBSD.org> <1133196263.41553.54.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <20051128130516.A36114@cons.org> <1133271434.46168.9.camel@buffy.york.ac.uk> <20051129120243.B64864@cons.org> <17292.64661.162502.12034@satchel.alerce.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <17292.64661.162502.12034@satchel.alerce.com>; from hartzell@kestrel.alerce.com on Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:12:53PM -0800 Cc: Martin Cracauer , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Subject: Re: Building new Athlon AMD64 Socket 939 or 940 machine X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:11:29 -0000 George Hartzell wrote on Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 05:12:53PM -0800: > Martin Cracauer writes: > > [...] > > Just to make that clear: the controller works well (well, no NCQ) > > [...] > > I'm interested in the Shuttle barebones system that folks were > discussing a week or so ago. It uses the Nvidia4 chipset. > > Googling around about the nvidia controller seems to say that the > device supports NCQ. It does, but they refuse to give the Linux folks the documentation to support NCQ (although they do give docs for the rest of the SATA chip and it works great in Linux and FreeBSD). I don't know what FreeBSD does here but obviously we are in the same boat. > Is the lack of NCQ support that you're reporting simply a matter of a > feature that's not yet implemented or is there a more fundamental > problem? NVidia's attitude. But as I said earlier, I like my DFI NForce4 board a lot, the NForce4 ultra chipset is a lot better than my NForce3 250 GB board was. I don't use ACPI on my desktops, though. I'm no sure I recommend shuttles. They tend to be loud. Users buying shuttles usually want small *and* quiet and don't realize both are mutally exclusive and they have to pick one or the other (or a Pentium-M system). If you want it for transportability, fine, but don't expect a nice living room citizen. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ FreeBSD - where you want to go, today. http://www.freebsd.org/