From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 24 21:53:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B3116A4E0 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75BD43D58 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:53:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (wm.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152E4291B40; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:53:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.128]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 75554-03; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ganymede.hub.org (blk-224-179-167.eastlink.ca [24.224.179.167]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F821291B1A; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:53:01 -0300 (ADT) Received: by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1027) id DFB714918F; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:53:07 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ganymede.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1893BC76; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:53:07 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 18:53:07 -0300 (ADT) From: User Freebsd To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <44C51874.5090509@bitfreak.org> Message-ID: <20060724185112.L17979@ganymede.hub.org> References: <20060724003805.B17979@ganymede.hub.org> <44C4B638.5090401@401.cx> <44C51874.5090509@bitfreak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: What sort of market does FreeBSD provide ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:53:07 -0000 On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Darren wrote: > Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: >> Why not make it part of the installer? >> Present a screen at the end of the installation that briefly >> explains the idea, and then let the user chose to view the >> information about to be sent, refuse to send it or simply accept to >> send it. This of course requires the machine to be connected during >> the install, which is not a problem during ftp-installs but might be >> a problem for users installing from cd. > > Or, currently, any machine with a wireless NIC, since sysinstall does not > handle ifconfig wireless settings well or wpa_supplicant settings at all. > One of the most common family of cards, the Intel PROWireless series, > requires a firmware blob that AFAIK can't be legally packaged with the CD. the other problem with this is that its a one time only thing ... it says "Joe User installed FreeBSD", it doesn't say "Joe User Installed FreeBSD, didn't like it so stop'd running it and switched to something else" ... The thing with the uptime projects is that they update the server periodically, to say "I'm still here, and I'm still running FreeBSD" ... we shouldn't be looking at "who *ran* FreeBSD", we should be looking at/for "who *is running* FreeBSD" ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664