From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 6 23:58:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7567914FCC for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:58:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p09-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.163.200.106]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id PAA03100; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:57:58 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37FC40AC.2205C7DF@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:41:48 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wsanchez@apple.com Cc: Matthew Dillon , Joe Abley , Conrad Minshall , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Apple's planned appoach to permissions on movable filesystems References: <199910070019.RAA09580@scv1.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilfredo Sanchez wrote: > > | While it is certainly true that a person could eventually get > physical > | access into the machine, it is a significantly more difficult > task and > | therefore a significant distinction still exists between the > data stored > | on the hard drive and stored in, say, a floppy. > > This is becoming less and less true. One of the driving reasons > why we're trying to work out this issue is FireWire. At some point, > you might expect a computer that uses FireWire for both the internal > and external drives, and the kernel isn't necessarily going to be > able to know what's "locked inside" the computer vs what's outside > the computer; it's (possibly) all one big hot-swappable bus. Your > root device could certainly live outside the box. Distinguishing > "easily removeable" isn't the way to go here. As I pointed out, the distinction is one of intent on the part of the admin. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "I always feel generous when I'm in the inner circle of a conspiracy to subvert the world order and, with a small group of allies, just defeated an alien invasion. Maybe I should value myself a little more?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message