From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 1 06:15:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05670 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 06:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05664 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 06:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA05539; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:43:50 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199611011413.AAA05539@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Another data point in the daily panics... To: karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se (Mikael Karpberg) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 00:43:49 +1030 (CST) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, greg@uswest.net, freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org, ponds!rivers@dg-rtp.dg.com In-Reply-To: <199611011344.OAA08663@ocean.campus.luth.se> from "Mikael Karpberg" at Nov 1, 96 02:44:17 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mikael Karpberg stands accused of saying: > > I read some mail someone showed me, not long ago... I think it was from > the NetBSD lists... Some guy stating (in some argument with a Linux hacker) > that "Your machine is probably idle while you read this", upon which the > Linux hacker said "No, it's not. I fire up 40 creashmes in init". > > I'd say that linux hacker is boooored ;-) To quote the common vernacular, I'd say the aforementioned Linuxer is a lyin' sack o' shit. If 'crashme' really rings your bell, search the mailing list archives for it; there have been sever lengthy 'crashme' sagas with the usual net result that the people with properly-configured systems usually got bored of waiting for the system to page them in and killed them all off. > Then again, I know a friends 2.1.5 machine rebooted after running 30 > seconds of "crashme". Sounds inconsistent with -stable as I know it. I'd be worrying about hardware before pointing the finger at FreeBSD. > Firing up _40_ at boot time, just for kicks, > must mean he can get a lot more out of Linux's vm/fs system then we can > get out of FreeBSD's, when it comes to stablilty. If you want to stress Is this a troll or something? Or are you genuinely naiive? For all Terry's (valid) complaints, the FreeBSD vm/fs system brooks no comparison of that order. > Anyone tried to fire up 40 crashmes and wait? Should produce nice output > for debugging a stressed system, no? Care to send me a copy of the aforementioned 'crashme', and I'll bore you with the results. I can even swap in some marginal memory and repeat the process to see if I can reproduce your friend's observations 8) > /Mikael -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[