From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 13:21:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598E45E1 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from eu1sys200aog101.obsmtp.com (eu1sys200aog101.obsmtp.com [207.126.144.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A26502252 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f178.google.com ([74.125.82.178]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob101.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUfpg4SzLdJNMWVTEJKGTa0VrvtiYvKAt@postini.com; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:21:39 UTC Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id u57so1699837wes.37 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:message-id:to:subject:reply-to:in-reply-to :x-gm-message-state; bh=dNbDTTBCq/SqxNIKEW7RiHdrjX9RyvAS8aIE/x3i2Sw=; b=iCuGlHfdGl6LVY7UxwuAUULw0yZzyJqA7U27xmBwYBZmk3C/GNCy7c8ktHOqR7ampL e0Za1ijbPoiRD8YWW+ydaff08TjthaTkY6fcOJAvjp7COiNfaDllmgecfirPdRWbCymZ Rye4H9godaTREmm9JWlXAtWHAQBKmExC4+fGDhxpgoUsETyxB9Ktas+olm/PE8XysG9j HCYZFR7Ye2w6HUZ7A73xHr3AG3NBW+fq4tS4O9T663NGgNxg3ZWjtgfw1cimS3N9lQo8 GBlfmHCJIr6IF3Y0w12Hf8RIF4b3MhEgExOWEQw9A6rjMm3zWxxu7zNmsg395czlz9CZ HSeQ== X-Received: by 10.180.185.148 with SMTP id fc20mr1287044wic.0.1375363297809; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.185.148 with SMTP id fc20mr1287038wic.0.1375363297754; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk. [137.222.187.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mb7sm3779701wic.10.2013.08.01.06.21.36 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 06:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Anton Shterenlikht Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r71DLYWp004813 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.7/8.14.6/Submit) id r71DLYZH004812; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mexas) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST) From: Anton Shterenlikht Message-Id: <201308011321.r71DLYZH004812@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, w3@langhans.com.pl Subject: Re: learn In-Reply-To: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmwTkjTLYhqCowAZRoaS47T9dRi5p4zYae/EEJ7PBmT90491So5xbxX+kGxVR/12drMs9rSyRAnfBph5hh6HvwYgQjLMhP+kDrlQoXSas7/0bmLWFT4vOSkM468PW7ZONQDtIE0qfblfw5yp+Y4b0jtUBzK0Nb4zWzo167IiSle0A29VoyLg8ufOLFZAHgnKnBv38lC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mexas@bris.ac.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:21:40 -0000 >Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200 >From: herbert langhans >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: learn >The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get lost >there. You know that, corebug. I completely disagree. The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project. In particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation effort I've seen. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me start using FreeBSD in the first place. In about 2003 I tried several linux distros, and got completely lost. The available documentation for linux, at least at that time, was not designed for a novice, certainly not at my level. In contrast, the FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to install and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9. Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot. The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource I would recommend to a FreeBSD novice. Anton