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[209.85.167.169]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w8sm886829ote.80.2020.02.17.19.23.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f169.google.com with SMTP id q84so18759711oic.4; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:23:48 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:d5d3:: with SMTP id m202mr11342oig.161.1581996227644; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 19:23:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 04:23:35 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List , FreeBSD Stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48M5mQ6vyyz4L5Q X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=M9Qy84pc; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::333) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.48 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.18)[ip: (-7.30), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.89), asn: 15169(-1.68), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 03:23:53 -0000 Why so short End-Of-Life? Why so many fast and short releases? What for? Why pushing problems to production? What was wrong with having one well tested stable system for a long time? 12.0 was a problematic release. 12.1 brings even more problems. To be honest X11 Video Acceleration DRM mess and dramatic Virtualization with VirtualBox brings back my MacBook to the desk because FreeBSD does not seem to be reliable desktop environment anymore even on a decent modern machine :-( Is it really necessary? What happened to FreeBSD? :-( Tomek On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 12:14 AM FreeBSD Security Officer wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Dear FreeBSD community, > > As of February 29, 2020, FreeBSD 12.0 will reach end-of-life and will no longer > be supported by the FreeBSD Security Team. Users of FreeBSD 12.0 are strongly > encouraged to upgrade to a newer release as soon as possible. > > The currently supported branches and releases and their expected end-of-life > dates are: > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Branch | Release | Release Date | Estimated EoL | > +-------------+--------------+-------------------+-------------------------+ > | stable/12 | N/A | N/A | June 30, 2024 | > +-------------+--------------+-------------------+-------------------------+ > | releng/12.1 | 12.1-RELEASE | November 4, 2019 | 12.2-RELEASE + 3 months | > +-------------+--------------+-------------------+-------------------------+ > | stable/11 | N/A | N/A | September 30, 2021 | > +-------------+--------------+-------------------+-------------------------+ > | releng/11.3 | 11.3-RELEASE | July 9, 2019 | 11.4-RELEASE + 3 months | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > Please refer to https://security.freebsd.org/ for an up-to-date list of > supported releases and the latest security advisories. > > - -- > The FreeBSD Security Team > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE/A6HiuWv54gCjWNV05eS9J6n5cIFAl5LHZNfFIAAAAAALgAo > aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEZD > MEU4NzhBRTVBRkU3ODgwMjhENjM1NUQzOTc5MkY0OUVBN0U1QzIACgkQ05eS9J6n > 5cIqyA//ROIFtIsEDV5p02FnWClgWu3qxZ4uRyA0usM1DtZPBYjtfsFGdAU+9NvY > EsUB3rVjWx2HNoHKySFgjLbtGdCNoae45pjLe3UiKgrbQZwXCdUl0d1y+4ZcoR0D > cdtEY6YWio4kBHTWxd0cgCpe+Cmk3nQRB005qgvMkkCBNBGuZQcQS62CMMis3IWC > paMcRBmzkh9HMW8e9XN2mFjGJbT2HKzY+y/Qvj3NhxenYgTzQbVwRDz4JPKz7Al+ > aVq2gLEuEgRWNFG+fBnk7qikzmV7JaXI+j/ImZnrMFBDC/ymiQMbQdt0Kxv0TsZF > ajR18pQyoAONXoJs875HD54/Rj0rQNkKwyZNKuka5+NWR/6d9H52+iytkGqn2DLR > Jp9slPHBW5ofC7WlgAAeV+S1Et7fWeV96hqDVRUXZstir6hM3hYEdwnQP8aFaYO9 > No+uLd6IAKBtBCK9hxOv6O6lmWjNk4LWQb6keG+zwFDCfnILdfwVE+eML7GqLzQ1 > 5s40M7gZsB//1S27WQOhKS4Vea+68meGOzGv0KkMd4gNuV/cBqVoCj52Muu3O0gK > nbMuFHptQbL0qhFGzho4chg4TsuXs0lf28BsHYYFeEewEce7gIwCgPLQPIwLQG4h > cv7KkgwEetngUUlyMaeKu2xCUXTaDJ3KpFkwEcol1oezaWkduwg= > =viBR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-announce@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-announce > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-announce-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info