From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 13 8:47: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from beelzebubba.sysabend.org (beelzebubba.sysabend.org [208.243.107.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C34614DB6 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:46:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ragnar@sysabend.org) Received: by beelzebubba.sysabend.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C00644037; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beelzebubba.sysabend.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA06D9A1A; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:47:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: Dennis Cc: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSD, GPL, the world today. In-Reply-To: <199905131530.LAA04222@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 13 May 1999, Dennis wrote: :At 10:43 AM 5/13/99 -0400, Jamie Bowden wrote: :> :>I've been doing a little thinking on the whole Proprietary vs. GPL vs. BSD :>licensing issue. Stallman's wrong, Brett's wrong, Gates iswrong, hell :>everyobody's wrong. :> :>Now that I have your attention, let me continue. The biggest problem I :>see with software today, as an admin (read, bridge between users and :>vendors), is the refusal of vedors to take responsibilty for their :>products. Microsoft seems to be the biggest practitioner of this, but :>they didn't start it. : :Actually, you are wrong. All software has bugs, therefore it is :unreasonable for consumers to assume that software that they buy has no :bugs. Bugs are part of the deal. Had you read the whole thing, you would have seen that I am aware of the fact that software has bugs. An acceptable inevitability. What is unacceptable is the refusal of vendors to fix their broken fucking software for less than a small fortune, if they are even willing. Don't let your knee hit you in the face when it jerks like that. Jamie Bowden -- If we've got to fight over grep, sign me up. But boggle can go. -Ted Faber (on Hasbro's request for removal of /usr/games/boggle) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message