From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 16 14:19:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20927 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:19:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20922 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:19:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA76029; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <199812162227.OAA76029@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall) In-Reply-To: <199812162201.OAA01101@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Dec 16, 1998 2: 1:36 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, bdodson@beowulf.utmb.edu, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Mike Smith: > > According to Mike Smith: > > > > According to M. L. Dodson: > > > > > Mike Smith writes: > > > > >>> If I might, I would like to suggest that any project along this > > > > >>> line look to include g77 as well as C++ as part of the base > > > > >>> system. This would help those of us interested in using FBSD for > > > > >>> number crunching. I can generate some testing time, including > > > > >>> compiling and testing some pretty hefty computational chemistry > > > > >> > > > > >> Can you clarify for us why having g77 in the base system, rather than > > > > >> an easily-installable and easily-upgradeable port would be worthwhile? > > > > > > > > f77 = stock f2c+gcc > > > > g77 = from egcs-1.1.1 port > > > > pgf77 = Portland Group Fortran compilers for linux > > > > > > > > The compiled program computes the acoustical scattering from > > > > an elastic spherical shell using standard partial wave analysis. > > > > > > This doesn't sound to me like any sort of justification. In fact, it > > > looks like a specific application, and more to the point, a strong > > > argument for having it a port. > > > > > > > A 33% increase in execution time doesn't seem like a good justification? > > No, your case isn't a good justification for having Fortran in the base > system *at*all*. > Ah, but you didn't state it that way. I interpreted your post to mean that "f2c+gcc is good enough; why upgrade it to g77?" I actually agree that Fortran could be completely removed from the base system (provide a port in available). I'm arguing that if FreeBSD continues to ship a Fortran compiler in the base distribution, then we should consider upgrading to g77. -- Steve finger kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu http://troutmask.apl.washington.edu/~clesceri/kargl.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message