From owner-freebsd-current Tue Dec 14 15:33:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0269E14FC5 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA49978; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Mark Newton , Peter Jeremy , Donn Miller , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:06:04 +0100." <19991215000600.C77327@yedi.iaf.nl> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:32:09 -0800 Message-ID: <49974.945214329@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > And: how many people would volunteer for such a job? > Or is it assumed that since this appears suspiciously like Real Work > it will be a paid-for job? It will be a paid-for job, naturally. Something we also have to stay aware of in this discussion is the fact that even if most hackers could give a fig for graphical installers and consider them to be an unneeded bit of hand-holding, it would still be nice to have a framework which stuff could drop into and be accessed via a command line or turbovision type of interface. We're not talking about writing multiple installers for each type of UI, after all, since that would be an unreasonable duplication of labor. We're talking about one installation/configuration code base which can use either X or text mode interfaces at the user's discretion, so both "camps" get what they want. It's also a sad fact that journalists tend to rate products based on different criteria than engineers do, and even where we're getting kudos in the engineering community, magazines are kicking us in the nuts over not having something which competes head-to-head with Caldera or Red Hat. Sad, but true. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message