From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 16 21:14:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C771916A417 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2EA13C45A for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:14:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JBZ00K4HCCIJB80@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:14:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.203.66.169]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0JBZ00GLFCCHIOJ1@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:14:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:14:41 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH In-reply-to: <20070116110935.A8351@xorpc.icir.org> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20070116221441.9afd899a.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20070116010645.A94849@xorpc.icir.org> <20070116193722.fee4defe.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20070116110935.A8351@xorpc.icir.org> Subject: Re: can we resurrect linux-firefox-1.5 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:14:48 -0000 On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:09:35 -0800 Luigi Rizzo wrote: > the many times i tried (up to a few months ago and with 1.0.5 or > 1.0.7) it crashed randomly while browsing, within a few hours of use, > and this was enough for me to give up. First: I find that running native firefox _without_ the flash plugin improves the stability a lot. I don't really *need* flash, so I can live with that. YMMV. Second; firefox crashes happens a lot rarer now that they useed to do. This is from my main workstation: tingo@kg-work$ uname -a FreeBSD kg-work.kg4.no 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #1: Sat Nov 18 13:59:20 CET 2006 root@kg-work.kg4.no:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SS51G i386 tingo@kg-work$ uptime 10:03PM up 29 days, 21:23, 15 users, load averages: 0.14, 0.42, 0.53 tingo@kg-work$ ls -l /var/log/mess* -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7873 Jan 14 23:55 /var/log/messages -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 11134 Jan 1 23:00 /var/log/messages.0.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6887 Nov 14 21:00 /var/log/messages.1.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4194 Nov 1 01:00 /var/log/messages.2.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8962 Oct 23 18:00 /var/log/messages.3.bz2 tingo@kg-work$ bzgrep firefox /var/log/mess* /var/log/messages.0.bz2:Nov 18 11:43:26 kg-work kernel: pid 2180 (firefox-bin), uid 1001: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) /var/log/messages.0.bz2:Dec 8 19:31:58 kg-work kernel: pid 22038 (firefox-bin), uid 1001: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) Third, some time ago (perhaps with version 2.0.0?) firefox gained the "restore session" capability, which also helps. > Additionally, i could not find a way to make the flash plugin > work, which is a major annoyance given the amount of flash content > that one finds in the services i use daily (some work related too). If linux-firefox isn't working for youhere, I really don't have any good suggestions. I would prefer that a stable, working flash plugin for native firefox, which would install with a simple portinstall. A man can dream, can't he? > firefox is not one of the most reliable applications around, > but these days using a browser is a necessary evil for just too many > things (including 'paperwork' that you have to do for your job, bank, > bills and so on). There was an informal survey in a norwegian newgroup last week; it seems that most (but not all) Norwegian internet-banking (web banking) solutions work fine with Firefox, Opera and other browsers. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway