From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 28 0:29:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E3F37B503; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (caddis.yogotech.com [206.127.123.130]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22910; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:28:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAS8Saj12439; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:28:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15364.41011.17856.165710@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:28:35 -0700 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Nate Williams , Greg Lehey , developers@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux? In-Reply-To: <20011128022239.E46769@elvis.mu.org> References: <20011128153817.T61580@monorchid.lemis.com> <15364.38174.938500.946169@caddis.yogotech.com> <20011128020009.B46769@elvis.mu.org> <15364.40171.899975.611675@caddis.yogotech.com> <20011128022239.E46769@elvis.mu.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > If you want me to shutup and go into a corner, it might make you feel > > better, but it certainly won't solve the real problem. > > I made it clear that my problem was not with the complaint itself. No, you didn't. > My problem with it was with the lack of technical backing or any > real way for me to reproduce the problem. For what it's worth, I can't reproduce it either, but that's because of lack of resources, not ability. I don't have the necessary hardware/network connection to cause the weird behavior. If I did, I'd give you better information. However, I don't doubt they're seeing this behavior. They've got graphs and what behavior I could reproduce showed that things were indeed completely bogus. Disabling newreno fixed *those* problems I could fix. > to shutup and go into a corner, I want you to get off your ass and > gather us all up some useful information so that we can solve the > problem. No can do, sorry. > Lastly, if these people are intent on running Linnex, they'll spread > however much FUD that they need to and provide as little information > as possible in order to effect the switch. It's not FUD. These people aren't OS bigots, they're folks trying to get a job done. They could care less if the box was running WinNT, if it got the job done. (FWIW, the ftp client boxes are running NT and Win2K, which *may* have something to do with it, but I don't know, since I can't reproduce it. :() Basically, all I'm saying is that Greg's friend results are similar to what I'm seeing. What's causing this is unknown. If it was known I wouldn't have sent any messages out, since I could have fixed it myself. But, I can't, so you get a message saying 'Me Too', which isn't much help except to verify that there may be some truth to the report. (Call it unbiased independant verification.) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message