From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 13 21:25:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7519D16A404 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from bache.ece.cmu.edu (BACHE.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.129.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D6313C459 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from [10.9.204.128] (dsl093-061-215.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.61.215]) by bache.ece.cmu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC0189; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070313203343.GA66076@icarus.home.lan> References: <20070313203343.GA66076@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5E16DADA-6FB9-4C94-BA12-C66726254FCF@ece.cmu.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:25:23 -0400 To: FreeBSD Stable , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:25:27 -0000 On Mar 13, 2007, at 16:33 , Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:58:34PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: >> We need to start hounding on AMD to publish the developer >> documentation for all radeon chipsets. I for one will not buy any AMD >> or ATI components until they decide to fix the problem. >> Besides, chances are it's not Meyer who's making these decisions (re: > proprietary hardware / NDA-only documentation), but a few select > individuals at ATI who are fuelled off of paranoia (the most common > defence being fear nVidia/other competitors will "steal their > technology"). Really sounds like the decision of a legal dept. and > not > a CEO. Hounding on AMD won't help right now regardless; they're still finding out what kind of mess they've acquired, making changes to it is a long way off. :) -- brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] allbery@kf8nh.com system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university KF8NH