From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jan 29 21:15:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.org (adsl-64-169-104-72.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B8E37B69B for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CFD59BA134; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:16:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:16:09 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Open Source Development Laboratory ... Message-ID: <20010129211609.A7649@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010127152254.D28709@lpt.ens.fr> <200101300040.RAA10841@usr07.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200101300040.RAA10841@usr07.primenet.com>; from tlambert@primenet.com on Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:40:52AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 12:40:52AM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > What a German hacker can do with impunity, a U.S. hacker will, in > > > fact, find themselves legally entangled, at great expense. > >=20 > > Umm... DeCSS was written by a 16 year old in Norway, called Jon > > Johansen (who, by the way, used both linux and FreeBSD), and just > > about a year ago his home was raided by Norway's National Authority > > for Investigation and Prosecution of Economic and Environmental Crime > > at the instigation of the MPAA, he was questioned for 7 hours, his > > computers were seized. Later he took the witness stand at the DVD > > trial in New York. I just refreshed my memory on all this at the EFF > > web page,=20 >=20 > Norway has already shown itself to be a legal pushover; that was > proven the moment that the Scientology and similar cases succeeded > in penetrating anon.penet.fi (an anonymous remailer, which no one > can trust now). I could have sworn Norway wasn't the same thing as Finland. :-) Kris --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6dk4ZWry0BWjoQKURAjm0AJ9I19H1e0juf4GgZQQt/o5G+8KP5gCg12Jn J8c7QFDOOIj/ZHvTjjaf7fM= =kXzX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message