From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 18 11:14:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from notrecords.com (228-121.ppp.ripco.net [209.100.228.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C238E15191 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aphor@ripco.com) Received: from ripco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by notrecords.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26492 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:58:11 GMT (envelope-from aphor@ripco.com) Message-ID: <380B5FB3.CD0ED1CE@ripco.com> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:58:11 -0500 From: Jeremy McMillan Reply-To: aphor@ripco.com Organization: Loose.. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Query References: <199910171732.KAA16232@cepheus.azstarnet.com> <199910180149.UAA06535@chicago.us.mensa.org> <19991017200427.A53790@dub.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let me clear something up here: It appears Bill Swingle or Dave Angulo accidentally snipped the attribution of the rude reply below. People might easily get the wrong idea. sbcorey@azstarnet.com wrote the comment: > > > Just shows that common sense dosen't go with brains. The message went out to freebsd-questions, and I'm not subscribed to the list. Therefore I wanted to affirm that Neither I nor ChiFUG had anything to do with the rudeness in this exchange. For the record, I don't care if people are rude or stupid or diplomatic geniuses: I want to make it easier for people to use FreeBSD whoever they are. Bill Swingle wrote: > > David, > > Each local users group is an independant entity. These groups are not > sanctioned or blessed by the FreeBSD project proper. That said, the > reply you recieved was not called for at all. This kind of behavior does > nothing to help the group as a whole but is out of the control of the > project leaders. > > *That* said, you just spammed all these random people who you considered > to be FreeBSD leaders with an unwanted email over what really ammounts > to a personal squabble. Please refrain from doing this. > > -Bill > > On Sun, Oct 17, 1999 at 08:49:17PM -0500, David S. Angulo wrote: > > Dear FreeBSD leaders, > > > > A couple of weeks ago, I sent a message to the person listed as the Chicago Usergroup leader inquiring about the Chicago user group. I did not get a reply (it turns out that he had a hard disk crash and lost the message). I sent a followup message and copied freebsd.org because I did not know if the CHicago group was defunct. I received this extremely rude reply from the person at FreeBSD. > > > > I would suggest that you have some otherr person making public contacts as this person evidently does not have any idea on how to behave with people. He also did not answer my question as I had obviously already seen the web page he directed me to and had already tried to contact my local group. > > > > Dave Angulo > > > > > From sbcorey@azstarnet.com Sun Oct 17 12:34:19 1999 > > > Received: from cepheus.azstarnet.com (cepheus.azstarnet.com [169.197.56.195]) > > > by chicago.us.mensa.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26407 > > > for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:34:18 -0500 (CDT > > > ) > > > From: sbcorey@azstarnet.com > > > Received: from dialup09ip021.tus.azstarnet.com (dialup002ip171.tus.azstarnet.com > > > [169.197.14.171]) > > > by cepheus.azstarnet.com (8.9.3+blt.Beta0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16232; > > > Sun, 17 Oct 1999 10:32:15 -0700 (MST) > > > Message-Id: <199910171732.KAA16232@cepheus.azstarnet.com> > > > X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ > > > X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD > > > X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > In-Reply-To: <199910171553.KAA24395@chicago.us.mensa.org> > > > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 10:44:10 -0700 (MST) > > > Sender: scott@dialup09ip021.tus.azstarnet.com > > > To: "David S. Angulo" > > > Subject: RE: Query > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, aphor@ripco.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17-Oct-99 David S. Angulo wrote: > > > > Jeremy, > > > > > > > > I sent you a message two weeks ago inquiring about FreeBSD usergroups or > > > > professionals. I did not get the courtesy of a reply. If you do not have a > > > > usergroup, then why do you have a web page? > > > > -- > > > > > > > > David S. Angulo > > > > dangulo@chicago.us.mensa.org > > > > > > > > > > > On the Home Page (.freebsd.org) under support is usergroups, however, > > > since you cannot read I have sent this url for you. > > > http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#user > > > > > > Just shows that common sense dosen't go with brains. > > > > > > > > > > ain't teknolergy wunnerful? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > David S. Angulo > > dangulo@chicago.us.mensa.org > > > > -- > -=| --- B i l l S w i n g l e --- http://www.dub.net/ > -=| unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com > -=| Different all twisty a of in maze are you, passages little -- PLEASE NOTICE: THERE MAY BE NOSPAM IN THE HEADERS WHEN YOU HIT "REPLY"!!! Jeremy McMillan | Ask for PGP-2.6.2 or 5.0i Chicago FreeBSD Users Group http://pages.ripco.com/~aphor/ChiFUG.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message