From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 3 01:44:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367BD1065670 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EBB8FC08 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 01:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-71-79.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.71.79]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157281E273; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:44:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p331i0wB003220; Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:44:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 03:43:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20110403034359.7ac8d116.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> References: <20110402201441.GA2996@thought.org> <20110402234643.GD4792@thought.org> <7C870049-A789-4AD0-97FF-9BBC581CCBD0@d3photography.com> <20110403013059.GB18031@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: am i back up....??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:44:03 -0000 On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 18:30:59 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:29:23PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote: > > Get a Gmail account. > > > i tried about a year ago: gdk98188; now i cannot get in. > something is hosed ... In worst case, use a "normal" mail account - either provided by your own server or by someone you trust, so google is out of scope. :-) Using POP/SMTP/IMAP always gives you the required ability to use the interface of choice, e. g. a standalone MUA that is accessible, and no requirement to do such stuff via the web, using the inconvenience and shortcomings of a web browser. I can only speak for myself regarding this suggestion, and I may also admit that I'm not fully happy with it. I would like to run my own mail server, but corrently I'm using the one for POP of the provider of my domain. I avoid SMTP as sending mail from my system (that runs a MTA) is considered NORMAL by me. Sadly, most others who suffer from spam do not think so, they reject messages coming from behind a dynamic IP, so I use my ISP's relay as smarthost for sending messages. This way, I can still use ANY mail client program I want - I get the messages using fetchmail and can then process them with any program, even "in parallel". For sending, I can even | mail -s bla bob@foo.bar from the command line. It may not be optimal for all imaginable scenarios (e. g. reading mail from a different system, sending from a different location), but as I do not require them, it's no big deal. Gary, whenever you have the chance to run you own mail system - DO IT. You have enough knowledge to keep this kind of stuff running, and it gives you more flexibility than anything else. For example, you could install an IMAP interface for mail stored on the server, so you can access it by any IMAP capable client you want, and you could even install a web mail client (e. g. roundcube) to bind to that IMAP inter- face. In my opinion, this is way better than the POP/no-SMTP thing I'm currently doing. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...