From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 1 15:55:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169AADC0 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aurfalien@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-x22f.google.com (mail-oa0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D40512BFE for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id g12so4170815oah.20 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=xzUfe20cGzq5T/0WBXO9r4MTv5xyupc9iVKOpHDsCL8=; b=u4/PeZjjjdVynG/1kX4/QW7Wekc6Kin0A0Jfp6dalqC7OootV8oA2YY8+wKux6eCDB Bc0r31hG+pdZKikcNstKbFzrlKdo/U5RMvWC4VN3Yt/ifHyPpZyTZOjPgOwfwR8eVeuu 5LsF//jx2DzO5Sdn5J4wlDKheBr/o8i5q9qQ2nBvVk/439g7OqKlszhCWVykwa6/TrJb 78jpwLHteth5YcC63MkY5VCdxTbgd5uP+Vzp/FsNkRNCFHefj3tTOflcab3Lj+p1xALI izKmaoxMslZXQWELFPUCuw/FWwj59fARj32R/ilkA8gKQugPfBqpe7l49BFJB1oL2xSZ R/zA== X-Received: by 10.182.81.41 with SMTP id w9mr1788480obx.18.1375372526054; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] (75-63-29-182.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [75.63.29.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q8sm3374111obl.11.2013.08.01.08.55.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Aug 2013 08:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: learn Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: aurfalien In-Reply-To: <20130801113135.1d326f37@europa> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:55:21 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8B3397F6-CBFC-4D9C-A971-AC39861B309E@gmail.com> References: <20130801122925.GA23418@manul.langhans.com.pl> <201308011321.r71DLYZH004812@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <20130801113135.1d326f37@europa> To: Mike Jeays X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: mexas@bris.ac.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 15:55:27 -0000 On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Mike Jeays wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:21:34 +0100 (BST) > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >=20 >>> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:29:25 +0200 >>> From: herbert langhans >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: learn >>=20 >>> The handbook is a monster, even technically interested people get = lost >>> there. You know that, corebug. >>=20 >> I completely disagree. >>=20 >> The handbook is of excellent quality for a volunteer project. >> In particular, it is far ahead of any linux documentation >> effort I've seen. Indeed, it was the handbook that made me >> start using FreeBSD in the first place. In about 2003 I tried >> several linux distros, and got completely lost. The available >> documentation for linux, at least at that time, was not designed >> for a novice, certainly not at my level. In contrast, the >> FreeBSD handbook was very clear and allowed me to install >> and start using FreeBSD quickly and easily. This was version 4.9. >>=20 >> Since then the quality of the handbook improved a lot. >> The handbook is certantly the first FreeBSD resource >> I would recommend to a FreeBSD novice. >>=20 >> Anton >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > Agreed - the handbook has been a great resource since I started using = FreeBSD in 1997, > at version 2.2.something. >=20 > Greg Lehey's book "The Complete FreeBSD" is also excellent, and = available as a free > download - although I am sure he would appreciate contributions or = purchases. >=20 > http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ I suggest downloading the USB image, combine that with Googling and = bayam, off you go. Of course, supplement with RTFMing which should always be at your side = and all will be well. And lastly, having membership on this fine list is key. The FreeBSD = community is indeed grand. Hell, I may even get a hoody from the store :) - aurf=