From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jun 17 20:31:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05824 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 20:31:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from minos.dyn.ml.org (dominus@client-151-197-112-222.bellatlantic.net [151.197.112.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05739 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 20:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dominus@minos.dyn.ml.org) Received: from localhost (dominus@localhost) by minos.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA00542; Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:29:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dominus@minos.dyn.ml.org) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 23:29:56 -0400 (EDT) From: James X-Sender: dominus@localhost Reply-To: higginsj@iname.com To: Sue Blake cc: David Wolfskill , newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vi In-Reply-To: <19980618101335.17364@welearn.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Sue Blake wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 1998 at 09:14:58AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > > >Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:24:12 -0700 > > >From: Tim Gerchmez > > > > >No. The simple fact is, I don't want to right now, and don't yet see the > > >point in doing so. Personally, I believe this thread got heated because I > > >basically insulted an original, holy Unix text editor.... > > > > Uhhmmm.... :-) > > > > No. vi isn't "original". It was written (essentially) by Bill Joy, > > while he was at UC Berkeley, as a "glass TTY" front-end for ex. > > Where does ed fit into this history? > Is ed available everywhere? I believe that ed was developed with ex. At least concurrently and in the same time period. I have seen ed on every UNIX system I have used (AIX, IRIX, Linux, OSF/1, FreeBSD, SunOS) so I am guessing that is a pretty sound yes. vi, ed, and ex are the 3 that are almost everywhere as far as I am aware. EMACS is spread around alot too, but may not be available in times of crisis due to it's size. vi, ed, and ex tend to be in /bin (or /etc) and EMACS is bigger and usually on /usr which might not be there in a time of a crisis (IE drives not mounted). James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message