From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 04:58:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DACA3D82 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 04:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:c:538::198]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97A9611CC for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 04:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mfilter27-d.gandi.net (mfilter27-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.155]) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17E2FB874; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 06:58:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter27-d.gandi.net Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]) by mfilter27-d.gandi.net (mfilter27-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cXRjwO3mFPCC; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 06:58:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 120.60.142.82 Received: from localhost (triband-mum-120.60.142.82.mtnl.net.in [120.60.142.82]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 91602FB87D; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 06:58:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:28:35 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: Mel Thompson Subject: Re: Please Let Me Know When You Have A Live CD With GUI Message-ID: <20140408045827.GA767@h61m.kathe.in> References: <1396930646.84739.YahooMailNeo@web163605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1396930646.84739.YahooMailNeo@web163605.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: "questions@FreeBSD.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 04:58:44 -0000 On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 09:17:26PM -0700, Mel Thompson wrote: > > I mention all this just to give you some perspective on the main issue I want to bring up to you: If a person of my background still can't get any version of FreeBSD installed on what are, admittedly, the old and outdated computers I can afford to maintain, it seems then that, in spite of many errors I am sure I am making, that the process of installing FreeBSD is still somehow not user friendly. For that matter, forget installing: I've never been able to get a Live CD, which should require not installing, and should be complete on its own, to boot into a Graphical User Interface. A kind of terminal-line-command-prompt is the best I ever got. could you please elaborate on what you mean by old and outdated computers you can afford to maintain? > Let me know if such a product is ever developed, as I should eagerly await it's arrival. Too, part of the fault is mine because I have quirky machines like Aopen mini-computers and Mac Minis which are quirky anyway. But, in spite of all the weakness of these machines and the huge gaps in my technical knowledge, I notice that I've gotten probably dozens of distros of Linux to work, even on weird drives where they aren't supposed to work, and even on old, ugly machines with the wrong specs. So I appreciated the flexibility of those distros to accommodate both my flaws and the flaws of my rather haggard equipment. the data you've presented is somehow wrong. you claim to have played around with various linux distros, including debian based stuff, yet you found freebsd to be difficult to install!! that's the weirdest statement i've heard in my entire life. > Even if you are unable to accommodate me, I will always be a fan of your work and grateful for what you've done for the universe of computing. And, of course, I know real system administrators who have great technical prowess and world-class equipment. They are often quite clear that, at the level they work on, FreeBSD is light years ahead of almost every OS one could think of. In any case, please keep me informed if developments happen to go my way. nobody is going to go out of their way to inform *you*, you just need to be motivated enough to fetch information which is of use to you. if you want to remain informed, it would be advisable to hang around on the freebsd mailing lists or keep an eye on a news portal like slashdot or even phoronix. best, ~mayuresh