From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 1 14:17:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863BF16A420; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:17:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from mh1.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF0E43D45; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:17:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from [10.177.171.220] (neutrino.centtech.com [10.177.171.220]) by mh1.centtech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k21EHA1P025821; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:17:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <4405ACE7.6060605@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 08:17:11 -0600 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Davies , Scott Long , cokane@cokane.org, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav , Maksim Yevmenkin , cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Marius Strobl References: <200602252159.k1PLxT8G036312@repoman.freebsd.org> <4400D478.7060707@samsco.org> <20060227194350.A57612@newtrinity.zeist.de> <864q2j5voi.fsf@xps.des.no> <346a80220602282337n3a2786c1qf4f9358fa6be73d4@mail.gmail.com> <44054FB8.5010707@samsco.org> <20060301135551.GY27069@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20060301135551.GY27069@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1308/Wed Mar 1 04:13:39 2006 on mh1.centtech.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/kbdmux kbdmux.c X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:17:27 -0000 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:39:36AM -0700, Scott Long wrote: > >> Coleman Kane wrote: >> >>> On 2/28/06, *Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav* > wrote: >>> >>> "Maksim Yevmenkin" >> > writes: >>> > we should make a decision which scancodes keyboard drivers should be >>> > returning and change kbdmux(4), syscons(4) etc. to support it. >>> > >>> > until then, i'm afraid, sun rs232 and powerpc adb keyboard drivers >>> > will have to translate their own scancodes into at scancodes (just >>> > like ukbd(4) does). >>> >>> Considering that ukbd(4) is the only kbd driver that runs on all >>> platforms, it might make sense to have all other drivers translate >>> their scancodes to ukbd(4) scancodes and use that in kbdmux(4) and >>> syscons(4). >>> >>> >>> I agree, especially since atkbdc's are rapidly being replaced by USB on >>> the platforms they were made for. >>> >> Long term, yes, but what is the risk/benefit of doing this for 6.1? >> > > If it doesn't work, we look like bloody idiots. 6.2 isn't that far > away, I'd think that anybody could manage waiting for it a little more > (especially if it goes into RELENG_6 just after the 6.1 branch). > > The above not to be taken as a comment on the change, on which I am not > informed enough to hold an opinion. > Can we have it all set, built in to GENERIC, but the device hint set to disabled? Lots of systems, Dell PowerEdge and similar, come with a remote access card, which uses a USB tie in. The only way I've found to make the console keyboard work after initial install, is to boot single user, hack /etc/devd.conf, and reboot, which is really ugly. Many FreeBSD users get stuck with this, so it would be very nice to have a quick way to enable the kbdmux at loader time for 6.1, but if it goes in right after, I'm not going to cry. :) Thanks again Maksim for all the work on this! Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------