From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 19:44:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3F41065672 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy5-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy5.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE9E68FC12 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15808 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2011 19:44:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2011 19:44:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=DnqmGOO4dV42WUaZIvO+7Cm40sGBHXvHasNbCb2YrSI=; b=kp803yNCh4ICRjVU1qwwBsfAnmcS6bpxcRJHAPYf6IhuQ4dBX+gHTGnMv9xw2ZG6klDmmHzJ1Wjr+ZLs1l8DG2jakEgalNND2TKJp1HroJo7rIC/GCkxkeAcmzggL8iR; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RR7sv-0004a4-E5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:44:34 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:41:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:41:51 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117194151.GA45282@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:44:35 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:56:06PM -0500, Jerry wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:50 -0700 > Chad Perrin articulated: >=20 > > Copyright infringement is copyright infringement -- and not theft -- > > no matter how hyperbolic your choice of phrasing. Castigate people > > for the unlawful act of copyright infringement if you want to, but > > please do not conflate two separate bodies of law by equating one > > illegal act with another. This abuse of terms is largely the fault > > of media conglomerates and their lobbying organizations (e.g. the > > RIAA and MPAA). The more you repeat these abuses of terminology, the > > more they are emboldened; I think it was the RIAA representative at > > the SOPA hearing yesterday who literally equated copyright > > infringement with *murder*. > >=20 > > Don't be like that jackass. >=20 > Yes, you must be one of those scumbags that pilfers the property or > intellectual rights of others sans payment or having acquired the > legal rights to the property and then tries to hide behind some pseudo > Divine-Right bullshit. You can fool yourself into believing that running > someone over with a car and killing them is Vehicular manslaughter and > not 1st degree murder; however, that does not change one iota the simple > fact that the victim is dead. That is an incorrect assumption. You have betrayed your tendencies toward argumentum ad hominem fallacy pretty clearly to this mailing list. Good job. =2E . . and now, slightly less directly than the jackass at the SOPA hearing, you too have equated copyright infringement with murder. I expect you'll probably equate it with rape or slavery soon enough. >=20 > You can try an justify your illegal actions all you want; criminal > attorneys make a living out of doing it in court everyday of the week. > It amazes me how scumbags constantly attempt to justify their illegal > actions. The simple fact is that a thief is a thief no matter how you > try and sugar coat it. There are no illegal filesharing actions occuring here at all. You are obviously incapable of reasonable discourse. >=20 > Now go back and play your pirated music, etcetera. I am sure you have > all ready justified that practice to yourself. Oh, of course -- "pirated", like the hundreds of CDs and audiocasettes and DVDs I have, though I've stopped consuming new music in any form from corporations that sue their own customers. I'd say you were in left field, but honestly, you're probably not even in the stadium. You *are* one of those jackasses, making accusations without any evidence that turn out to be patently false. I imagine your use of "theft" to refer to copyright infringement is not, as I initially treated it in the interests of keeping discussion civil, a mistake. Rather, it must be an intentional deception intended to smear people with whom you disagree so you can avoid having to think your arguments through and actually communicate with people. You deserve no further consideration from me. Enjoy the very small space within your mind without my company, jackass. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk7FY38ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKU6swCfS6zHggiZmQpKUUcFx/YL/6cq V5EAnjgQVAgF0AuwwgDbuFOwM9yxVKyb =YjMG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp--