From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 05:10:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE04106564A for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD738FC15 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5856pXZ058281; Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:06:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.5.5 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk m5856pXZ058281 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1212901612; bh=Wpcnzn32g847l5 rGbAivrDgMTQ5xaXJgv0QimHIG9BA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<484B68EB.8040106@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Sun,=2 008=20Jun=202008=2006:06:51=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.14=20(X11/20080503)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Tobias=20Hoellrich=20|CC:=20freebsd-qu estions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Flashplugin|References:=20<200 806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net><11167f520806071333r7d51192at3 bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com><20080608000350.00006173@westmark>=09 =20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-V ersion:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp -sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A= 20boundary=3D"------------enigF9DE87BBE9F90C3D0147256A"; b=1B6qlKos HpaBDretAkvADDVKLzyv/QGSUzUwdae/XB+YpATCaRNjP/1MFVBLF29yReDf3oCRFPk TmpE/tjuZUBrxIDAYhq+Uzgs9yV3mymAXRjHRx/2yC8YJ7LpqvyOrUU+iLOzSur1X+8 Jw4N+6tRICOqbGzONNRXqWt0qD9Jc= Message-ID: <484B68EB.8040106@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:06:51 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080503) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tobias Hoellrich References: <200806071500.28001.derek.graham@att.net><11167f520806071333r7d51192at3bdcc5e63cb6766@mail.gmail.com><20080608000350.00006173@westmark> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF9DE87BBE9F90C3D0147256A" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:06:52 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.93, clamav-milter version 0.93 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flashplugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:10:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF9DE87BBE9F90C3D0147256A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tobias Hoellrich wrote: > Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team an= d > asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on > FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many > *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used o= n > a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those > answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers bac= k > to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area. > Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as= > I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D123735 on 8.0-CURRENT).=20 Well, if you consider PC-BSD as FreeBSD -- which it is for programmatic purposes, then at least 15,000 users are prepared to voluntarily self-report themselves as such. PC-BSD by it's nature implies desktop usage. Note that PC-BSD invites users to register with BSD Stats at install time. Other BSD variants require the user to have heard about and then gone and installed the reporting software, so the uptake is a lower proportion of the user base. Regular usage is a hard one. BSD stats requires a monthly report from each server, so the figures they have don't include any significant amount of historical cruft. Reports are also generated when the system reboots, but as far as I know, the BSD Stats project hasn't analysed its data to extract any information about how often people reboot their systems. http://www.bsdstats.org/ Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF9DE87BBE9F90C3D0147256A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkhLaOsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwacQCeOyPhArpCXMwytkXOhhlCT6mL fMwAnjRozo7nrJFeE9R3I08KA89KOEH0 =8hqs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF9DE87BBE9F90C3D0147256A--