From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 30 23:08:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DD99268 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 23:08:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1BA31FCE for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 23:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id e51so81089eek.28 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:08:24 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=AXmH5Ot1LUoUDpLyPPas6Hc+MINvS0yoyAq9tGKZsqg=; b=KBZq+EPfD9IMYf08BvXS+109iysrUqrIclp093kvCieTgPq4AZuG4UfoKK1dQ0EWb0 nYGKj4C7F1DH9HO8DX7+7bvCJIZ1va5VhIXxXIh5p0ZmnZGuDwtl2QWXjlSeWVDOCssC oPCWM+945vdoABRQGeUPeu+iEOZmhgClEr1pBijz5X0KKVLVLyt63VpdtQKPTb2b0n6J rsfd409/jEkeKbWQmsFJ7Z2woV1XgCr1QqLQnEshx1v8LZjQAf5uZNVSUreDcugLLVZ2 I5EV6TeBWY8/tc6u06ZrWTHADS4vGoQzMIShSWZZl4QcULNrB+PNPz92s8HU+iiyhiof BnsA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnUZsofCHabs41cfqb7L7gBdfcNknyU1pnB+BPNR6oOCntG6Lg1OFkVpDNp8XoK8ihBdMxE X-Received: by 10.14.101.5 with SMTP id a5mr13831517eeg.63.1391122877820; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([89.169.173.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o43sm28567287eef.12.2014.01.30.15.01.16 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:01:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52EAD9BC.4060707@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 03:01:16 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tijl Coosemans Subject: Re: svn commit: r341775 - in head: Mk/Uses converters/libiconv devel/gettext References: <201401292024.s0TKOomF031237@svn.freebsd.org> <52E97640.5020703@freebsd.org> <52EA297E.6030607@kovesdan.org> <20140130132652.5d945d44@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <52EA862C.30201@freebsd.org> <20140130225350.5260dc47@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <20140130225350.5260dc47@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.7a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: =?UTF-8?B?R8OhYm9yIEvDtnZlc2TDoW4=?= , svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 23:08:26 -0000 On 31.01.2014 1:53, Tijl Coosemans wrote: > //IGNORE I've never encountered yet and I don't know why anyone would > want to use it. It seems the code have some //IGNORE handling hooks, but I don't test is it really work or just fake as "transliteration", see iconv.c: handle->cv_shared->ci_discard_ilseq = strcasestr(out, "//IGNORE"); handle->cv_shared->ci_hooks = NULL; return ((iconv_t)(void *)handle); > And lack of //TRANSLIT isn't as bad as I initially thought it was because > system iconv does transliteration by default. It's just that the output > is not as good as with libiconv. The examples so far only involve ASCII > and ISO-8859-1. I do seem to get good transliteration with ISO-8859-15. Transliteration by converting everything to '?' (that's all I got in my testings with several charsets, including 8859-15) means transliteration is simple not working, it isn't 'not as good as'. Despite of false claims in the system iconv code, see just a definition of transliteration term.