From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 24 13:51:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE97A16A469; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2001:1b20:1:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C1313C4B3; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:51:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l9ODoqOZ095624; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:50:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l9ODoq8D095623; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:50:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:50:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200710241350.l9ODoq8D095623@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, simon@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:50:58 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: Re: [simon@FreeBSD.org: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssl/ssl ?d1_both.c ?dtls1.h ssl.h ssl_err.c] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, simon@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:51:10 -0000 Ken Smith wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Uhm, are you sure? In the past, whenever a new RELENG > > branch was created, it was implicitly the next -stable > > branch, because -current moved on to the next version > > number. Did that policy change? > > It is implicitly the *next* -stable but it's not there yet. That's > what Simon was saying. > > FreeBSD's development (specifically the CVS repository) is public. > But the bottom line is that the RELENG_X branches are *development* > branches. I'm well aware of that. My question was only about naming conventions. People often talk about either "-current" and "-stable", so was curious what RELENG_7 would be called right now. Obviously it's not called "-current", but (according to you and Simon) it's not called "-stable" either. Actually the often used terms "-current" and "-stable" are ambiguous and not really accurate. E.g. someone talks about "the -stable branch" and you have no idea which one of the several RELENG_* ones he means. It's probably better to always use the CVS names or the branch name (from sys/conf/newvers.sh). > No change in any policies or anything like that. What I'm describing > has been the status quo for a long time but people tend to forget or > never quite "get it" or ... so I'm sure you're not the only one thinking > this way. I'm not thinking that way. :-) I do know very well that the -stable branches are development branches. Although in pre-4.0 days (when release branches didn't exist) -stable had a slightly different meaning, but it has really been a long time since then. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd > Can the denizens of this group enlighten me about what the > advantages of Python are, versus Perl ? "python" is more likely to pass unharmed through your spelling checker than "perl". -- An unknown poster and Fredrik Lundh