From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 18 01:44:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3728B106564A for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 01:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74568FC15 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 01:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-97.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.97]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26842777F; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 03:43:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id q7I1hxMU003297; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 03:43:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 03:43:58 +0200 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?B?0LjQstCw0L0g0LrRg9C30L3QtdGG0L7Qsg==?= Message-Id: <20120818034358.dd0562d1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1345195062.601.29947.38439@saddam3.rambler.ru> References: <1345195062.601.29947.38439@saddam3.rambler.ru> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 01:44:02 -0000 On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:17:42 +0400, иван кузнецов wrote: > how to open RU_FREEBSD_DOC_20111014.TBZ under windows? The file is a tar archive compressed with BZip2. It's no real surprise that "Windows" cannot natively handle it, as with many established standard formats. :-) > several program cant,i was attempt.7zip cant. It's not a 7zip archive; still the 7zip page on http://7-zip.org/ mentions that the BZip2 format is supported. However, there's BZip2 available for "Windows", maybe this can help you: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/bzip2.htm There are also claims that "WinRAR" is able to extract BZip2 files. > why i not able read documentation BEFORE install? I'd refer to the documentation presented on FreeBSD's web page. You can easily create a local copy of the HTML subtree using wget (and yes, there's WGET.EXE even for "Windows"). The most important pages are: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/ Check out FreeBSD's main web page for language selection. Here you can find a russian translation of all those documents: http://www.freebsd.org/ru/docs.html Again, it's possible to make a local copy of them which you could carry on a USB stick or CD for further reference. > where it after install? It will be installed into /usr/doc, containing the language variants and formats. > second,you installer is not well, not very undersandingable for newbis. I don't think so. It's very precise in wording and easy to use. You just have to read what's on the screen and answer accordingly. A help function is also included. > i mean user must hit tab in some dialogs,but he press enter - > attempt please. The keyboard support is explained in the first help pages. It's also mentioned in the Handbook which one should read before or even while performing the install (if one is unsure about how the interface works). > it is not MISTAKE but look mysteriously,and user worry. That's quite possible. :-) Users feeling unhappy with the FreeBSD installer often tend to prefer PC-BSD with its GUI installer and a more lengthly "step by step" guide through the installation with much more interactivity and user attention. As this interface can be used with a mouse, the distinction between TAB and ENTER is not that important anymore. > you shoud do only one small step in order to do freebsd more > frendly - publish full international docs on install dvd -- > user only put dvd and see docs in browser. How is a user supposed to have a browser available when putting the CD into a system he wants to install it on, with _nothing_ on the hard disk? I agree that the documentation could be accessible via a web browser from the install media when used in a _different_ computer, and maybe it should also be accessible in text form during an early stage of the installer. However, the purpose of an installation medium is to install something. The installer does exactly that. > its simpler than rewriting os in order to div it more frendly. The OS has basically nothing to do with its installer or the way help is presented to the user. This is done by programs, _those_ could be extended or changed. > is it true flash work badly or after complex work? No. Outdated stuff like "Flash" can be quickly and easily installed, and it works reliably and stable. > i cant write on my writemaster dvd drive with freebsd9 - brasero > dont see drive. Can you provide more information, e. g. what model, how connected, output of dmesg and so on? Please check the Handbook regarding the use of optical media. Start with "low level diagnostics" (i. e. use OS tools to first check if the drive is detected and attached to the correct driver), in a next step maybe check your Gnome and Brasero configuration. If it fails, try a command line tool. Those are typically easier to use and more comfortable. > what you can say about it? with best regards,ivan,Russia,Moscow. MHOrO YCnEXOB! ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...