From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 6 07:21:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA19348 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 07:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com (dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com [128.222.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19334 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 07:21:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by dg-rtp.dg.com (5.4R3.10/dg-rtp-v02) id AA08311; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 10:20:25 -0500 Received: from ponds by dg-rtp.dg.com.rtp.dg.com; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 10:20 EST Received: from lakes (lakes [192.96.3.39]) by ponds.UUCP (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA24220; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 09:46:21 -0500 Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA06703; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 09:48:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 09:48:37 -0500 From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199512061448.JAA06703@lakes> To: ref.tfs.com!julian@dg-rtp.dg.com, rkw@dataplex.net Subject: Re: More nits Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > At 11:48 PM 11/4/95, David Greenman wrote: > > Along those same lines, I would hope that the CD could contain enough of a > > framework to make it fairly easy to generate a custom kernel install > > floppy. It would be a big win if we could offer the ability to build custom > > floppies for unusual configurations (like those 4meg'ers that can't make it > > under the wire) or the atapi driver that doesn't quite make it into the > > release, but for which we might find a solution for certain machines. > > I really think the cdrom should contain a 4MB boot disk > there are several assumptions we can make that make this possible.. > > 1/ 4MB machines will almost definitly be IDE/ESDI > ergo we don't need SCSI.. that's a LOT of space right there.. > 2/ they are installing from cdrom or DOS.. or other non network system. > ergo we don't need network stuff > > taking those out MUST make a kernel that can boot in 4MB.. > don't tell me that it doesn't fit or it's too much work.. > if we can't fit another floppy on the cdrom there's a problem.. > > We gotta give these guys a way of installing.... I agree, it would be nice (since I was, until recently, one of "these guys") Let me point out though, that all of my 4-meg installs are on LAPTOPs connected via a SL/IP connection (well, one is with an old 386sx and an ancient 3c503 ethernet.) So, I would require networking. That is, most 4meg machines are either ancient or a laptop, so they likely don't have either a CD or a large DOS partition. If they did have a large DOS partition, how do they get the distribution on it, must be either a tape or network. - Dave R. -