From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 12 22:50:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969DCCB1 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se) Received: from mail.lysator.liu.se (mail.lysator.liu.se [IPv6:2001:6b0:17:f0a0::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167C08CC for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.lysator.liu.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E274000C for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:50:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B24A40009; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:50:31 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on bernadotte.lysator.liu.se X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 Received: from mx.daemonic.se (mx.daemonic.se [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:0:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lysator.liu.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BED2A40008; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:50:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailscanner.daemonic.se (mailscanner.daemonic.se [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:0:1::6]) by mx.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3Z5Jx22Wqkz8ggx; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:50:30 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daemonic.se Received: from mx.daemonic.se ([10.1.0.3]) (using TLS with cipher CAMELLIA256-SHA) by mailscanner.daemonic.se (mailscanner.daemonic.se [10.1.0.6]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with ESMTPS id f1SkIN8FP4Cq; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:50:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.daemonic.se (mail.daemonic.se [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:0:1::4]) by mx.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3Z5Jx02CpMz8ggv; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:50:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from tifa.daemonic.se (tifa.daemonic.se [IPv6:2001:470:dca9:1::6]) by mail.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Z5Jwz67pHz9Ctj; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:50:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from tifa.daemonic.se (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by tifa.daemonic.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234922281C; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:50:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <511AC731.2040406@daemonic.se> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:50:25 +0100 From: Niclas Zeising User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Kargl Subject: Re: 7+ days of dogfood References: <20130210000723.GA73630@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20130210000723.GA73630@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:50:34 -0000 On 02/10/13 01:07, Steve Kargl wrote: > In a long thread started by Peter Wemm on developers@, he described > the move/upgrade of the FreeBSD.org cluster to using FreeBSD-10. A > part of his description included the need to test top-of-tree under > actual real-world conditions. In his words, FreeBSD should "eat its > own dogfood." The new installation on FreeBSD.org, of course, would > test FreeBSD-10 under (heavy) server load. Just another data point, I haven't read the whole discussion yet. On my 5 year old laptop (Intel Core2Duo) amd64 system everything works fine, including intel graphics using WITH_NEW_XORG=, everything built with clang. There is no sound issues or anything, except in libmpg123 when built with clang. The only problem is that the laptop only have 2GB ram, which is a little on the low side these days. I also have a desktop set up in a similar way, but with a ATI graphics card (HD4850) and a core2quad processor. That one works splendid, everything build with clang and linked with libc++ (as opposed to libstdc++) and using ZFS as a boot file system In summary, it is definitely possible to run a FreeBSD desktop off of current, and I've never experienced any big hiccoughs that were not very much self-inflicted. Regards! -- Niclas