From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 20:20:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD5F106566C for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stas@legolasweb.nl) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3518FC12 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.137] (helo=smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RR8Rb-0002iF-Q1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:23 +0100 Received: from 5357e90f.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.233.15] helo=homey.local) by smtp6.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RR8Ra-0003j8-Tq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:22 +0100 Received: from homey.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homey.local (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAHKKP1q054722 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stas@homey.local) Received: (from stas@localhost) by homey.local (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id pAHKKPU8054721 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stas) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:25 +0100 From: Stas Verberkt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111117202025.GA54183@homey.local> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117171750.GB44779@guilt.hydra> <20111117125606.1aaf3e79@scorpio> <20111117194151.GA45282@guilt.hydra> <20111117195631.GA45423@guilt.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111117195631.GA45423@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1RR8Ra-0003j8-Tq X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-4.718, vereist 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, PROLO_TRUST_RDNS -3.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, SPF_SOFTFAIL 0.20) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: stas@legolasweb.nl X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:20:25 -0000 --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:56:31PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > I'd exhort readers to not take Jerry's absurd accusations and hostile > attitude to anyone who doesn't just applaud his every effort as an > indication that they should ignore the rest of what he says; in theory, > some of it might actually be worth considering. As I've reread it, > though, I see that all of it is tainted by (intentionally?) confusing > terms such as "theft" and "copyright infringement", leveling baseless > accusations against innocent parties, and generally engaging in fallacy > by preference rather than actual reasoned argumentation, so there's > nothing left to read and judge for oneself. I just saw that, besides the already mentioned website by the EFF, there seems to be a letter to congres from several privacy and free expression organisations worldwide: https://s3.amazonaws.com/access.3cdn.net/ea0af5a75bcbfe15c4_v0m6bxvv4.pdf Or Mozilla: https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/11/15/mozilla/ Kind regards --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOxWyJAAoJEKBMSeL04vuLWasQAIWC4HL6hVVN40Q9mQ29eJdK KugReHcdiksidvD0fGPd/4Qkbbs9OwiuigdSN4iKpWQROKBqmEIYlUE3XWlsuNsk rlNuNziF3WgYUdFZS3q9M3LfFGoUVC901r6a5MrI6snqqNoL3AjupXjrqy/RN9oO edBqBokNPWYbN9OBJCfb6diu9v+pZI3UvccY6JbdkJnz5UbFaZGuQImg0bihoNIe qLmk3mn1Ze7qvN0pmxlFmRTJudXXM3FMpijxwkcRHQ5SOj5LEpGqFP9aIQZmpWn9 gPeD6c++Z5tVNOyP7UR1ROkNKmk+ZvICR6YW1jTkXAMd3NH9RydmLDJDl+h71DuA VoukJzScnVzbystBkgTRmOF86L1ljQUlMiB70awfTY8pk8q9j+BffG3DH9kTVh64 cdYAxNEq48ycN2bFBhk17dP6XaxhTeJICt3qrOoU4iVDvGNUWumx8ATkKZ/4P+d/ o1sYsWuCQKcCkrzRyx/DIdUWtLClb7nmt81+2FUn3g7HimDXh2CbzAA/ZarwC61v hjRfjK3+4ekB7fvmDGUkCtTV6+t+SgtEfno2+Y3EDJuhYsOriMA+CTIcDyGvPbuk pQEmqfC5A9jdLW94lusrO7Hu63V1RHUpckzJ5iiKLrdqlGG/Umwr4U4a4It6WvhX +8qI1WIUVvMbKdUHdZfh =IIY2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EeQfGwPcQSOJBaQU--