From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Nov 9 09:37:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27752 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:37:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bcefire1.cibcwg.com (mail1.cibc.ca [207.61.221.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA27741 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:37:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from WALKERSC@cibc.ca) Message-Id: <199811091737.JAA27741@hub.freebsd.org> Received: id MAA18088; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:27:45 -0500 Received: by gateway id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:36:59 -0500 From: "Walker, Scott" To: "\"jlemon@americantv.com\" " , "\"pat.groce@state.sd.us\" " Cc: "\"freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG\" " Subject: RE: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:36:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes I am. I don't hack code all day, hell I can't even code. Yet I run a stable linux and freebsd box. without any problems. Couldn't get anything but 3.0? That's funny, I got 2.2.7 yesterday that way. Guess you can't figure out ftp yet. Oh well. And how is it freebsd fault, last time I checked, it was the use who booted the machine, selected options. You must have the new AI FreeBSd, that installs it's self and runs it self. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help Author: "pat.groce@state.sd.us" [SMTP:pat.groce@state.sd.us] at BCEEXCH Date: 11/9/98 12:30 PM I couldn't get anything but 3.0 over the net. I mean i download boot.flp and fdimage.exe, made my install disk, and 3.0 was what i got. DON'T BLAME ME, I DID EVERYTHING THE WWW.FREEBD.ORG TOLD ME TO FOR AN INSTALL. Why didn't the web site or setup program warn me not to install 3.0? The web page at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html made it all sound so simple. I didn't know there were hidden issues! If the system isn't configured correctly its FREEBSD'S fault! Why can't a fresh install even stand on two legs? So what if its out of disk space? Not my fault. It should have configured the partitions correctly from the first place. What a joke! And you're blaming ME for the system having problems? ADMIT IT! FREEBSD CAN NEVER HOLD A CANDLE TO NT. ONLY A MOUNTAIN TROLL WHO SPENDS HIS DAYS SLOBBERING OVER A KEYBOARD HACKING SYSTEM CODE COULD EVER GET IT WORKING. This os is not for the business world! -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Lemon [mailto:jlemon@americantv.com] Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:27 AM To: pat.groce@state.sd.us Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help On Nov 11, 1998 at 10:01:11AM -0600, pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote: > We had been running freebsd for 4 years to handle our internet email. Last > week the hard drive crashed on the system. I had a tape backup of important > files so i reinstalled using the new freebsd 3.0 version. Let me get this straight; You had a system crash, so instead of re-installing a known good system, you upgrade a production system to the bleeding edge (3.0) without any prior testing? Honestly, this was a mistake, and the version that should have been installed was installed was 2.2.7. > cryptic errors. Sendmail keeps giving me an error: > sendmail[131]: NOQUEUE: low on space (have 0, SMTP-DAEMON needs 101 in > /var/spool/mqueue) So, sendmail gives you an error message saying that it is out of disk space, and you blame it on sendmail? No offense, but it sounds to me like the system isn't configured correctly. > To hell with FreeBSD. We are replacing all of the systems with NT versions > of sendmail. And it works great! I neat little GUI makes sendmail and the > Exchange listservs easy to manage.The software may cost more, but in terms > of staff time, we're saving thousands, not to mention all the frustration. > > I read all the news on how unix is going to give microsoft a run for the > operating system market. I don't believe it for a second. You are welcome to your opinion. If NT works better for you, then by all means, use it. FreeBSD is powerful, and can do anything that you want it to do. However, it setting it up and maintaining it does require more knowledge on the administrator's part than NT. In return, it can provide "years of trouble-free operation"(tm). You did note that FreeBSD handled your email for 4 years before a harddrive crash. Please feel free to give us a summary in 4 years from now of how well NT behaves in doing the same task. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message