From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Oct 28 19:44:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FB137B401 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79A743E42 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:44:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rootman22@attbi.com) Received: from C595663-A ([12.254.218.35]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021029034449.NSKD28672.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@C595663-A>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 03:44:49 +0000 Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux For Managers... From: Joe Warner To: Derek Barrett Cc: DavidJohnson@Siemens.com, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, Linh Pham In-Reply-To: <20021028212723.30105.qmail@graffiti.net> References: <20021028212723.30105.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-aVOjYBn4g+AQx6w3/Zyc" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 28 Oct 2002 20:44:23 -0700 Message-Id: <1035863065.319.56.camel@C595663-A.attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-aVOjYBn4g+AQx6w3/Zyc Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 14:27, Derek Barrett wrote: > This raises a good point. While I don't have an answer right > now that addresses the "managerese" way of selling, a good > model for what's needed in FreeBSD is the new Postgres > advocacy website. Not only does it make the case > (backed up with case studies), it also has all the right > lingo. (Total Cost of Ownership, administration costs, > deployment, etc.) >=20 > FreeBSD could really use something like this, so in cases > this exact same scenario comes up (which it WILL), we can > just point our managers to the page and not have to write > up something over and over again: >=20 > http://advocacy.postgresql.org/ I agree with this. They also have it linked on their mirror sites: http://www.us.postgresql.org/ "In more than just English, the PostgreSQL Advocacy and Marketing site has been launched. Through this site the general public who aren't aware of the benefits and power of PostgreSQL can learn about the benefits and advantages it offers and more." It would be great to see the launch of http://advocacy.freebsd.org/ Joe >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Johnson David > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:11:34 -0800 > To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: FreeBSD vs Linux For Managers... >=20 >=20 > > A coworker and I are planning on replacing about 20 LynxOS lab workstat= ions=20 > > with FreeBSD. We originally chose LynxOS because that's what our embedd= ed=20 > > products use. But its getting too expensive to support it on workstatio= n, and=20 > > they're difficult to maintain. > >=20 > > I stepped up to the plate and set up a prototype workstation with FreeB= SD,=20 > > with an identical look-and-feel to the other workstations (mwm, develop= ment=20 > > scripts, etc), and created a step-by-step guide to installation and=20 > > configuration. > >=20 > > The sole purpose of these workstations is to connect to our embedded pr= oducts=20 > > via cu. > >=20 > > We are all set to go to roll out FreeBSD to the other lab workstations.= But=20 > > some Linux advocate in the company is starting to raise a stink (even t= hough=20 > > he is unwilling to help in the conversion and subsequent maintenance). = Now=20 > > the manager in charge of the machines wants a report on why FreeBSD was= =20 > > chosen instead of Linux. Sigh. > >=20 > > So what good reasons translated into Manager-ese can I present? > >=20 > > Thanks, > >=20 > > David Johnson > >=20 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net >=20 > Powered by Outblaze >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message --=20 Support your local Search and Rescue unit -- get lost. --=-aVOjYBn4g+AQx6w3/Zyc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA9vgQXy8v4Vaw+EcoRAhv1AJ9CW+Uc5heg1rFei9hKwFOd9p9McgCdHdRZ wRg5xvh1xq/qp6tjD8p1G4Q= =0Rle -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-aVOjYBn4g+AQx6w3/Zyc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message