From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 15:04:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA154106566B; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) Received: from hercules.mthelicon.com (hercules.mthelicon.com [IPv6:2001:49f0:2023::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6711E8FC27; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PegaPegII (hydra.fletchermoorland.co.uk [78.33.209.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by hercules.mthelicon.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8TF4bgE098701; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:04:38 GMT (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) Message-ID: <2381D3CBDFB94F36ACFC9146E95AF32D@PegaPegII> From: "Pegasus Mc Cleaft" To: "Robert Watson" , =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= References: <4AC141B0.4090705@delphij.net> <86ws3iexl3.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86ske5gav0.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:04:37 +0100 Organization: Feathers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090928-0, 28/09/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,STOX_REPLY_TYPE autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on hercules.mthelicon.com Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras Subject: Re: [PATCH] Shutdown cooloff feature X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pegasus Mc Cleaft List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:04:47 -0000 > I could be convinced by an argument that reboot and shutdown -r should be > the > same, and that both should talk to init, which should perform the reboot > system call. Since init is what runs rc.shutdown, and it already knows if > it's in multiuser mode (since it defines multiuser mode), it should be > able to > DRT. My belief is that most people who type in "reboot" do so thinking it > means the same thing as "shutdown -r ". > > Robert N M Watson > Computer Laboratory > University of Cambridge I have always used "reboot" to be the nasty "Just pop the reset button" kind of shutdown. I have a system that hystorically locks up after BSD does a proper shutdown/reboot and when I am working remotely, after doing many sync's I call "reboot -nq" (it seems to like that :> ). I suppose in my mind I have always thought of the reboot command as being a sledge hammer where "shutdown -r" was the polite version. I wouldent want to loose the brute-force power of "reboot". Peg