From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jan 3 22:12:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA03994 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA03989 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03439; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:12:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701040612.WAA03439@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Brian Tao cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Annelise Anderson , Michael Smith , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD into larget corp. environment? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Jan 1997 18:29:14 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 22:12:15 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I know where you are coming from . We just need a business type to fit in what we are doing in a business model. I think that many enthusiasts such as myself will be willing to forgo pay initially in the hope that at a later date we could actually make a living hacking on FreeBSD. At any rate, Jordan , when am I going to get paid cause I am working my ass off on a new video capture driver for FreeBSD -- at any rate, you can easily see what I mean --- many of us are already working hard on FreeBSD so I for starters will be willing to donate my time well sort of since I am already donating my time 8) The biggest is issue is expectation there is difference hacking for fun than for a living however I think that if we set the expectations right many will be able to fit in. Enjoy, Amancio >From The Desk Of Brian Tao : > On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > At this point, the only thing really stopping us from going for such > > an arrangement is startup capital. > > Would it not be possible to retain a dozen or so consultants in > varying geographical locations, and have the customer call in a > request to page their assigned "software engineer", who would then > call the customer back. I know it isn't as nice as talking to someone > live on the phone when you need them, but it should eliminate most of > your office and full-time employee costs. > > My previous employer had earmarked in the neighbourhood of $25,000 > a year for vendor support contracts alone, and another $100,000 for > project consulting fees. They need a corporate entity to do business > with, not just a list of names of FreeBSD hackers and their home phone > numbers. I know of a few UNIX consulting groups in Toronto whose > members operate out of home offices and have no problems winning large > contracts with telcos, insurance companies and the federal government > (heck, even governments of other countries!). A client generally does > not know or care whether your office is in your unfinished basement > den, or on the 75th floor of a downtown skyscraper. Most of the work > can be done remotely, so they won't even care how you dress. ;-) > -- > Brian Tao (BT300, taob@risc.org) > "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" >