From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Nov 21 20:26:23 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C4B46F467 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 20:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [198.252.153.129]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CdlLQ4j8Bz3N2t for ; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 20:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from capuchin.riseup.net (capuchin-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CdlLF3FRGzFf1s; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 12:26:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1605990373; bh=IFpVpoT6caOUlRcgk4Ihya+ILkWoPNbXCTwFwrerDpU=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=jrENfVxxN5rlBfYBRQ5CR9UMaYw2Uqewsgzt8KzDh2Ik4UJcEmiwBAW/zE/S1Ew4I vw1LnIQAnd1knyJFeuOM0Ysb1lVrHBQFvNn+i+RKCwbb5Z8HufOgPGK6qMBeBlEI3c Bd31G5u4GSztNGjqFXWkDeou4Xzd/fI4A+M+hHHA= X-Riseup-User-ID: 5061DFA812CE4C4FF8E6ADC380958D17559C31A6088A16D2E9B633C8FEBC4906 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by capuchin.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CdlLD48Kvz8stq; Sat, 21 Nov 2020 12:26:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:26:13 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: usb harddisk not working Message-ID: <20201121212613.153cfbda@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20201121204425.86d9c6b1.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20201121204425.86d9c6b1.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CdlLQ4j8Bz3N2t X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=jrENfVxx; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.129 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.129:from]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[198.252.153.129:from:127.0.2.255]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 20:26:23 -0000 On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 20:44:25 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >This could be a wiring thing, but in my experience with cheap USB disk >enclosings, it's probably a version of the firmware (the part that >does "USB plug <---> SATA disk") that is not working properly and >according to the standard. This can also explain the "works here, but >not there" and "works sometimes, but not always". Hahaha, IIRC we already agreed off-list regarding USB enclosures and the firmware a while ago. I can not remember that we discussed wiring issues. IMO it's super-very-most-unlikely a wiring issue. I can't imagine a reasonable wiring issue. What the OP describes is the common (I like your wording) "works here, but not there" and "works sometimes, but not always" firmware issue. In the beginning I disassembled the drives and connected them to my PC to test, if the drives are broken. Nowadays I don't even test the drives, I directly return such USB enclosures. I even don't waste time to test another USB port ;), let alone another computer. Regards, Ralf