From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 09:38:06 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DC837B401 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD9143FA3 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h75GbrQX079709; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h75Gbq5P079708; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 09:37:52 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: ticso@cicely.de Message-ID: <20030805163752.GA79120@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , ticso@cicely.de, Harti Brandt , FreeBSD-Current List References: <3F2D1713.9060806@liwing.de> <20030803181735.GC6331@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030804152951.J54895@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20030804140822.GU6331@cicely12.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030804140822.GU6331@cicely12.cicely.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: FreeBSD-Current List Subject: Re: INET6 in world X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:38:06 -0000 On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 04:08:23PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > That's chicken/egg - IPv6 never will be widely used if everyone thinks > that way. > The sense is to break this dependency loop by ecouraging everyone to > use it and not to make it easier to completely disable the support. > As I said: you -always- have an IPv6 connection to the outside world > as long as you have a single official IPv4 address. > Not using it because it doesn't fit in your current network is one > point, but disabling it in a way to make a future step to IPv6 > harder is another. > The number of IPv4 only systems is already big enough - we don't need > to build new ones. Machanism, not policy. I would also like to run with NO_INET6. IPv6 support has done nothing for me other than cause me problems. I still strongly disagree with our ordering of localhost in /etc/hosts. My system worked worlds better when I put the IPv4 localhost first. We don't want to kill IPv6 support in FreeBSD -- we both fully know there are areas of the world where is it a very useful if not mandatory thing. However that isn't the case for the USA yet, and I'm guessing Germany also. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)