From owner-freebsd-current Tue Dec 14 20:24: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BB414C46 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:24:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@p23-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.163.200.120]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) with ESMTP id NAA21637; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:23:26 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <38571717.F25976F7@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 13:20:39 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Thompson Cc: Peter Jeremy , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just to to correct a misunderstanding... Ryan Thompson wrote: > > Daniel, here, sees the X install as being "user-friendly". Is the text > based install not? Granted, it's not the point and click interface that > windows users are accustomed to, but, clearly, if users can't navigate the > menus and manage to find their way to a help menu (and don't know how to > read install documentation)... It could be reasonably argued that they are > going to experience a rude awakening when presented with the good old root > prompt. Hey, I like CUI. I'd rather install with a CUI than a GUI, all other things being equal. And besides some quirks here and there, I really like sysinstall. So what? I'm a Forth programmer. I'm the guy who wrote /boot/support.4th, and find it easy to read and understand, even long after writting it. I'm the guy who wrote the builtin wrapper code in src/sys/boot/common/interp_forth.c, though I'd prefer not to disclose that information in public. :-) But the fact is that when we get featured in a magazine article, user-friendly install == GUI. No GUI, it's not an user-friendly install. End of review. You can kick and scream all you want, that's the way it is. Either we live by these rules, or we loose. > >From a techical standpoint, yes, an X based install would be far too large > for a single floppy, even at the simplest level. AND, again, as someone > who has installed FreeBSD dozens of times on various systems, I think I > should also stress that I have NEVER installed FreeBSD from CD :-) Me neither, but CD is still the most popular installation media these days, though we, Open Source OS, probably get more network installs than CD installs. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) who is as social as a wampas dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message