From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 03:11:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6162106566B for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 03:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916988FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 03:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R42M3-0003IG-F1 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:11:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1316056271343-4805409.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20110914134446.GA9714@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> <20110914231053.GE12098@itcom245.staff.itd.umich.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thinkpad audio question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 03:11:12 -0000 It was mav (Alexander Motin), he proposed those hints after I complained that sound stopped working after update. He wondered how I got sound to work in the first place, with hints I had previously. I don't think pushing those specific hints somewhere would be so beneficial, subtle hardware revision could change pin associations. (e.g. Your friend's T500?) I don't think man page is missing something, it's verbose and exhaustive, with 4 examples of hints for various purposes. (The truth is out there! heh.) The problem is, most people don't want (or don't know they need) to swap line-out and speaker functions, to split headphones and mic to separate device etc. They do not know why default pinout is not working as it should, and what they should change. They just want to have headphones and speakers working as intended :) But I'm afraid this can't be directly addressed, as possibilities of default wrong pin associations are "endless". If you think otherwise you are free to submit PR as well :) best regards, - Jakub Lach PS. I suspected that If by chance my device.hints will "just work", the "pedantic engineer" in you would be silenced somehow :P -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Thinkpad-audio-question-tp4802936p4805409.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com.