From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 04:07:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A852D106564A; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 04:07:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276898FC12; Sat, 12 Feb 2011 04:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxa40 with SMTP id 40so1748497vxa.13 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:07:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=f68Ou/2v+MJOWT7IDHKoh8mutK/QBfYHCuxjwFcqjxs=; b=humYuZl18uwQsp/U9KXoevm27db6JL+1WM4DMWeyGqBECj8fpEU2leayjr1V+5ZXZ1 GWKWUIOrHoB0dMdI2wQdkrLFB3MqmPS6VDXB3O1Ujuwn/LQGjIe7AdYhYpVxXpnx03qQ uWDcCvnOfL7rGF5vz3Z3ZkwTjz/tLJVqZRRDs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XT712TVHWnYD2GimKdmIvK/CjYER5N7+7j8nGwaaJfvNgxqFJfuSmgm0mcYsWMythz QywzBqI2IaQjT8NFcXqoLTyuhTT+QHmD52mKtOdN2g4vQYADqL3batscCge34y2PBIXV pjJgXcS1mrO9onDo8nkeJ1xngBAPyrfiiyZOI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.182.66 with SMTP id cb2mr1612910vcb.270.1297483653246; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.61.140 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:07:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:07:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org, Eric Oyen , Peter Grehan , Nathan Whitehorn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: How does one minimize the base environment plus Xorg for lowend machines? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 04:07:34 -0000 The G3 B&W has been volunteered as part of an effort to use a Lombard- The laptop has the same cpu- as a device for the visually impaired. I'm currently running a build of orca and attempting to lessen the build by removing unnecessary build options. The release is the 9.0-CURRENT recently announced on the mailing list. The attempt of porting emacspeak to the machine failed when using an old port on a OpenBSD install. NetBSD was difficult to boot due to not knowing the proper boot commands. (If someone knows how to do this or can show me what I did wrong, I'll be glad to read.) Tiny BSD seems to be optimized for i386 processors. Can this be used on a Lombard or a B&W with Xorg and the r128 driver? One of the light "Box" desktop environments can be used or the cwm from OpenBSD and orca setup to run along with it. This email should explain my curiosity for Linux emulation and a reference earlier to NetBSD. Eric- the other person in the email header- and I attempted an OpenBSD install with both 4.8 and 4.9. Current crashed and 4.8 would hang with either the ATIBUS or during an install of a meta package. I can attempt- with guidance- to build packages. Mr. Grehan and Mr. Whitehorn, I've included Mr. Oyen's email so that you may ask him about our recent efforts. Really not sure about building packages on the Quicksilver for the G3/Lombard machines. B&W working environment has been minimized to match near the same size as is available on the Lombard. Adriane (debian/Knoppix) was a suggestion by myself. Eric had noticed that the code wasn't optimized for PPC systems. Building orca is slow. Should have rebuilt the kernel first.